Add "real road" official track surface grip setting in ac

I know we have multiple track grip levels and we can even make custom grip levels ourselves.The reason I'm asking to have an official "Real Road" track grip setting in AC is so that it can be used with RSR Live Timing.

An official one would mean that everyone has the same settings, that's why user custom settings don't work with RSR. The current grip levels are not good because all of them are more or less dynamic, so they change after a few laps, or the grip level is unrealistic, like Optimum is always 100%, which makes Hot-lapping and comparing the lap times in AC with real car lap times useless. Again this is for validly on RSR and other leaderboards like that and for people who want an official standard for realistic track settings.

Here is why this will be different from the current grip settings:
Track Surface: Real Road, track grip @ 95% and fixed.

95% is the sweet spot between too much grip and too low grip, being fixed assures that no mount of laps will increase the grip thus leveling the playing field when Hot-lapping for RSR leaderboards amongst all players. This setting being officially in game would assure everyone has the same settings and prevent any kind of cheating or modifying it, since the RSR app does those checks automatically.

I hope it will be taken into consideration.

 

Sorry for asking silly questions, but does RSR know if you edited the presets? Can it read the actual grip of the track i.e. 95% and not the name of the preset(or contents of it)?

 

That's a question you need to as RSR, but if this setting will be official in AC there is no reason why RSR can not make 1 extra .ini check to see the track grip and preset so they can make a new RSR leaderboard class specifically for this and for those people who want to do lap records in realistic settings and have an official standard.

Right now there is not such a setting in AC, so 1st we need to have it in AC for RSR to make that leaderboard. Let's give them the incentive. Nothing wrong can come out of this, only good.

 

You can create your own preset for track grip and evolution.
If you follow a filepath that should look fairly similar to this:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\cfg\templates

Then one of the files should be 'tracks'. You can open this up with notepad. Once you're into the file, paste this into it:

[REALISTIC]
SESSION_START=95
SESSION_TRANSFER=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=999
DESCRIPTION=A realistic setting, simulating the grip on actual road surfaces.

This will start the session at 95% grip, and only add one percent of grip for every 999 laps driven - this will reset each time the session progresses.

Of course, this will be overridden when you join a multiplayer server, but if you run your own, then there is a way of putting track evolution in - you can find that on one of the other forums.

I'm afraid that I don't know enough about how RSR works to be able to tell you whether it will pick this up, but you ought to be going marginally more slowly on a low grip surface, so I don't imagine there will be a problem. To be on the safe side, just disable RSR when you're using custom presets.

I hope this will do until Kunos add it officially

 

Alien drivers will be still alien in 95%. I suggest that you simply delete RSR and enjoy the game to whatever grip level you like. If also want to compete with other people just choose servers with wanted grip level.

 

The point is to encourage people to drive on more "fun" grip conditions regardless of their skill level.

@PAKFA
I think contacting RSR should be the first step and not Kunos adding this preset, otherwise it might be useless. Also the name "Realistic" or something similar would make more sense as "Real Road" is already used and represents different meaning

 

You did not get it, I want this especially for RSR. Read my posts again, both of them.

I swear today is like twilight zone, people don't read anymore...

Look at this neophyte below, he thinks I want this so that aliens won't be on top with 95% grip, lmao.

Is this what you understood from my suggestion? removed by mod - keep calm

I want this for everyone, aliens included as a new standard and official class of leaderboard on RSR, not just for me or because I want aliens to not be that fast... Jesus what's wrong with some people today.

I'll do that. As for Real Road name is just a suggestion, they can call it Realistic or anyway the see fir, for all I care, I just want it in game.

 

Just trying to help
It's a nice idea, I completely agree, but on the flip side, I don't know how many people would use it. A lot of the people I chat to compete for the best times, which they're not going to get on 95% grip

EDIT: Yes, I see now, sorry about that But RSR have supported mods in the past, no reason that they couldn't support that change.

 

Maybe not everyone, but I know a lot of people what would like to have an official leaderboard that is comparable to the lap times in reality. Even if it's not 100% accurate even like this it's still miles better than 100% grip.

By the way I forgot to say, RSR in the event gets implemented should also do a check on track temperature and not allow all kinds of temps, there should be a standard for tems too. 20°C I think it's a good value, but whatever the value is decided it should be standard for being validated on the leaderboard.

I've contacted RSR and I'm waiting for their answer regarding this suggestion.

 

So you want something for all because you want it? Option already given for you. Just lower grip and play. What is your problem?

 

Yeah, i agrees, it would be nice to have a reasonably realistic yet level playing field for people to compare lap times.

 

removed by mod - keep calm

How about you read again my original post, slowly this time so you can understand, before posting another silly reply like this one and the one before it.

 

Welcome.

 

95% and fixed is not "real", "realistic" or whatever you want to call it. (hint hint ... the fixed part)
100% grip is improbable but not unrealistic. What do you think track grip would be on SPA after a 24h race?

(this answer also applies to the other topic you made reference to)

 

Sure as heck wouldn't be 100% lol

 

A suggestion like this would be useful for a more direct comparison of times.

 

Of course it would not be perfectly real because we don't have a dynamic weather system linked to the track's physics and car's physics.

The reason for a fixed grip level is to have a unchangeable standard for Hot-lapping and leaderboards. If it would be dynamic, some people would exploit it more than others and would generate more random lap times.

This is not supposed to simulate the track grip for a 24h Spa race or any kind of long race. It's supposed to be just for RSR hot-lapping as I said in my original post, original post that you conveniently ignored, because otherwise you would have known what this is about.

It's ok, I'm used to negatively people like you that every time a new idea comes they must try to destroy even if it's actually good and even if it actually does not affect them in any negative way. And having this in game it won't affect you in any negative way.

I'm also used to my "fan-club" of little neophytes that feel the need to post negative stuff in all my topics just because they don't like me. No worries, I have a special place for them called my ignore list which will get fatter, probably even today.

Here is the part that some people don't get about me: I can make a very hard to digest topic like the one about wheels vs pads and then the next minute I can make a good suggestion that this game can benefit from. I can make a very strong and unorthodox topic that creates strong debates and mostly disputes and then I can make a constructive criticism topic and offer a solution or improvement to a specific aspect of the game, like the topic I made about Nordschleife bugs or the one about the LaFerrari dashboard... and many others. I can do all these things because this is the kind of man I am, I speak my mind bluntly and I have strong beliefs and when I know I'm right about something I don't back down, unless I consider the the discussion has reach it's objective or has become obsolete.

Despite my radical ways of being I like this game and I actually want it to be better otherwise I would not be here at all right now.

 

And yet you cannot write a single post without insulting people....

I will tell you why I ignored the RSR stuff.
a) Title says ""Add "real road" official track surface grip setting in ac"". I briefly and in simple words, so you can understand them, explained to you why "real" is the wrong word for it. Guess it wasnt simple enough for you.
b) RSR already has a fixed grip level for hotlaping. They may not have chosen it directly but 100% is what everybody uses to set WR. If for any reason you dont like that, go annoy Andrea.
c) RSR could very easily add another clause to their pro rank to only include records done on 95% grip or 90 or 5... If you want that to happen, go annoy Andrea.
d) Such a grip level can very easily be modded in, as Sam gracefully showed you and yet you expect KS to add what you consider "real", and name it so, because you consider it "real".
e) AGAIN.. You want an unrealistic setting to be implemented in AC, just so ... I'm sorry I forgot, why is it again? Ah yes, to compare laptimes others do, to real laptimes others do...

I really hope you have added me to your ignore list, and if you havent already, please do so, because I cannot take another insulting answer from you.
And by insulting I dont mean words like "neophyte", that doesnt bother me. It's all that stupidity that flows through your keyboard that kills me....

 

Including this preset by default isn't required to have 95% grip hot-lapping standart.
The only thing is needed is for RSR to be able to read the actual grip level at the time hotlap was performed and add some additional filtering. I am pretty sure people who installed RSR will be able to create their own 95% preset ("how to" can be included in RSR website).

 

I'm sorry, but your own ignorance and negativity is the only thing that makes you blind about what the purpose of this suggestion is.

You don't like the fact that I called it "real", would "more real than Optimum grip" be a good title change for you? Because clearly 95% is more real than 100% and clearly I'm not the only one agreeing to this as you can see by all the other people who support the idea. So why do you make this about me? Because you're just another ignorant neophyte.

Tell me that if this gets added to AC it will make you quit the game because of it. Tell me more how this being officially in game affects you in any negative way. Is this gonna destroy the game for you? NO. Does making this simple addition to AC will detour the work of Kunos for months because of it? NO. Am I forcing you to use this preset? NO. Is anyone else forcing you to use this? NO. Is anyone forcing you to be an annoying human being that likes to be negative just for the sake of being negative? I don't know, look in the mirror.

You fail miserably as showing me the bad guy here and you deserve the ignore list. Wish granted.