AMD Ryzen CPUs

Hi,

I've read previews of AMD Ryzen CPUs and am starting to think it may finally be retirement time for my reliable 2600K. It's so exciting to finally see some innovation on the CPU market after years of overpriced stagnation due to lack of competition.

If anyone makes the jump to Ryzen, please share your experience in this thread.

Also, it would be good if someone (the devs themselves ideally) could explain if/how much AC scales on more than 8 threads (high end Ryzen CPUs have 8 cores/16 threads).

Thanks!

 

Yeah, if the hype is true, there may finally be an viable alternative to chipzilla and I may upgrade my 2600k too.
Its been a long time since AMD fell behind and couldn't quite catch up.
Either way chipzilla will probably have to drop their prices to maintain market share in the Low/mid range space, which will be almost like them admitting "yeah.....we've been d*cking you for years!"

 

Sadly MB with decent amount of SATA ports are costly (2x SSD, 7x HDD, 1x optical drive), which jacks up the price for me.

Though as a former AMD guy I'm hoping for some more competition, but the i7 models just left AMD far behind so far.

 

Pretty much all mainboard prices for AM4 are ridiculous.
Overall, the system cost is a bit too high at the moment.
Keep in mind that you need a new CPU, mainboard and memory (DDR4), all of which are quite expensive right now.

Also, I'd wait for the 4/6 core cpus to show up. For games, I don't really see a need right now for 8 cores.
That money is better invested elsewhere.
In principle, the physics calculation should be able to scale in a game like AC, especially with AI opponents, but I don't know (and didn't test) if it really does.

Personally, I'd wait half a year or so. Then prices should have settled a bit and in addition the new generation of GPUs by AMD (which are rumoured to be good as well) should be there as well.

Regarding the AMD vs. Intel battle that is surely coming up:
I've not used a single Intel CPU privately since ~2000 and I haven't had issues playing games so far.
AC runs nicely on my CPU.
Sure, I don't have the fastest CPU on the market and not even a CPU of the market leader, but I outgrew that idiocy years ago.

 

We're still pre-release, so prices are still high.
Let's wait for prices once the first wave is shipped and everything is in stock.
4-6 weeks or so and the prices are usually already down from list prices.

My i7-920 plus board, cooler and ram was like 600-650€ it was money well spent for now 8 years and still handles fine. Before it was AMD, usually every 2 to 2,5 years a new system before the performance increases were big enough so it was necessary.
The i7-9x0 successors were merely little performance increases with each update.

 

One thing to keep in mind is that they will keep the same socket for a while, so that the motherboard cost a bit more isnt that big of a issue. At least if you maybe want to upgrade within 3-4 years. I think they have said am4 will be used until 2020-2021?

 

i see people talking about how the cost is still a bit too high.. $400 vs $1100 for the I7 equivalent. .Thats not exactly what i call expensive... When you can buy the chip, mobo and ram for less than you can buy the chip from the other guys.. id call that SUPER CHEAP, not expensive.

 

Im not sure if something could be called super cheap just because something else is super expensive.

 

I will not use Intel products, so when AMD release the second batch of CPU and Mobo I will be taking the jump.

edit: @Berniyh said everything I would have typed, that is why the one sentence post.

edit of edit: I will not go for an AMD GPU till their Linux drivers are sorted out. I have not seen a good AMD Linux driver yet (even though I have not looked for a few years). nVidia have always been kind to Linux on that front.

 

Well that was more of a "compared to" But yeah i do think $400 is cheap for an 8 core 16 thread chip that can run at 4 ghz. Thats amazingly cheap...i remember the price of my pentium 2 and my amd athalon..

@Horus Ive currently got some money saved up i was supposed to be saving up £2,200 for my new drumkit but i may just blow it on building a new machine.. Which will probably contain a 1700x, an Nvidia 1080 and 32gb of ram (no its not just a games machine, it will be used for GFX and music creation too lol )

 

You will have to keep us informed on that Nobby. I hope this does not mean you will be without a drumkit though! As John Bonham & Buddy Rich, will haunt you for the rest of your days.

Sorry but I love these guys.

 

Yeah, but it's overpriced for what you need in a gaming rig.

There just is no need for that $1100 Intel CPU in any sensible scenario (with focus on gaming, of course there are other areas where you can benefit).

 

I'm using AMD with open source drivers since 2008 or 2009. Works like charm.

 

Yes, I agree. The very top of the pile is always stupidly expensive where PC components are concerned. The Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 costs around 600 quid, which is ridiculous.

 

Yes, I even think 300€ is overpriced for GTX x60 or now xx60 (Ti) cards.

I remember my GTX 260 was less than 150€ and it was still 3/4 of year until the successor was introduced.


The next faster cpu than my i7-920 was like 70% more expensive and had maybe 15% more processing performance...

 

Big supporter of AMD and competition in the hardware market in general. Will get the 1700 with the release of the new Vega GPU in Q2/Q3 this year.
Intel already dropped its prices like scared fruitcakes and the 1700 is x3 times as fast as my 1055T in Cinebench R15 and for less than an Intel equivalent.

 

?
You mean this?
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/about-intel-price-cut-article-that-was-deleted.231020/

Regular sales get translated to Intel having panic.

btw, do anyone know when NDA end? Ive heard different things, tomorrow and on Thursday.

 

But I read it on the internet, so it MUST be true!

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story...y-cutting-prices-on-core-i7-and-i5-processors
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-reacting-to-amd-ryzen-apparently-cutting-prices-on-core-i7
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-6850K-Processor-FC-LGA14A-BX80671I76850K/dp/B01FJLAITC/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1488128436&sr=8-1&keywords=Intel Core i7-6850K&linkCode=sl1&tag=hothard-20&linkId=f5f7e22300de640515735f322743e0f5

http://geizhals.at/?phist=1551201

 

Did they have panic 2017-02-06 too? because it did only cost 2 euros more than today back then.

 

It's going to take a lot more than "hey, this finally doesn't suck" to get me back to AMD chips. I reluctantly switched back to Intel for the i7 due to its overwhelming superiority and I'll need the same from AMD to flip my bit again.

I also love how you guys shun Intel as this evil mega chip giant, while AMD is this beloved plucky underdog. That was true in 2001... AMD is just another giant tech corporation now, one who makes inferior products to its competition pretty much across the board.