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Assetto Corsa - Competizione "MOUSE STEERING"

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Mateo De Bonis, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Sorry about this crap post, but someone can confirm from Kunoz, staff if Assetto Corsa competizione will add the "Mouse Steering" Function like in Assetto Corsa?
    because i drive with Mouse Steering and before every wheel driver come here to say "buy a wheel" 1- I win against Wheel Users a lot of times. 2- In my country is 120% expensive and there's almost no Steering Wheels to buy, only 2nd hand for the price of a new one in Europe or USA and even more expensive than a new one there.

    THANKS.
     

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  3. demonized

    demonized Simracer

    i personally don't see a reason why it will be removed, but who knows
     
  4. magzire

    magzire Alien

    Or buy a joypad :)
    Seriously a mouse, cmn dude lol
     
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  5. You have to prove the steam controller. Wait for one of the many steam offers . Uses the gyroscopic sensor as steering wheel. Use the analog triggers to accelerate and brake and the lower buttons to change gears. It's closer to a steering wheel than to a gamepad.
     
  6. I think you dont know to much about devices... by far "Mouse" is the most precise device in comparison with a Steering Wheel, and as i said, i can beat Steering Wheel users with G29- G27- T300 - Fanatec, etc... if you race in Assetto Corsa maybe you know about a private group called SRS , a league and i race there against really good drivers and i get podium like 20 times, i dont want a gamepad because if i'll race with a Joystick i'll buy a PS4 but with that money i can buy a great steering wheel, or well... a good 2nd hand steering wheel in my country.


    To many things from te Input to the Game = InputLag, i prefer the accurate movement 1:1 to the screen, the only device that can achieve that is a Mouse against a Steering Wheel, i play more than 10 years in Playstation with Joystick-Gamepad using D-pad and Analog and i can say that Mouse Steering beat Gamepads by far..
     
  7. magzire

    magzire Alien

    Okay thats fair enough, just the thoughts of using a mouse. With mouse you're play a playing a game, with wheel you are driving a game. Just sucks that its so expensive.
     
  8. chakko

    chakko Alien

    No, it isn't.

    Did you ever see someone drive a real car with a mouse?
     
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  9. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    How do you brake and accelerate?

    Going faster is not everything, it is car simulator after all, but I perfectly understand your situation
     
  10. Orne

    Orne Alien

    I'm hoping for an iphone/ipad steering interface or maybe even a tiller handle steering option. :p:D I'm rollin old school son, they see me tillin, 1904 Cyklonette style, they hate'n !!

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. morpwr69

    morpwr69 Racer

    The fact he can beat anybody with a mouse is insane. That's like telling your buddies you just got beat up by a girl.... Take that 1200 dollar dd wheel I got a 20 dollar mouse.lol
     
  12. Sleeper Service

    Sleeper Service Hardcore Simmer

    Aaah... the memories of completing the full Indy 500 on the Amiga, twice, with a mouse :cool:

    If you are interested, pm me with your location. I've got a G27 and pedals with a Bodnar cable gathering dust. I'm sure we can work something out :)
     
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  13. Pedro Sanchez Pareja said:
    You have to prove the steam controller. Wait for one of the many steam offers . Uses the gyroscopic sensor as steering wheel. Use the analog triggers to accelerate and brake and the lower buttons to change gears. It's closer to a steering wheel than to a gamepad.

    Mateo De Bonis said:
    To many things from te Input to the Game = InputLag, i prefer the accurate movement 1:1 to the screen, the only device that can achieve that is a Mouse against a Steering Wheel, i play more than 10 years in Playstation with Joystick-Gamepad using D-pad and Analog and i can say that Mouse Steering beat Gamepads by far..[/QUOTE]


    Ok. I meant about feeling. For me it's more enjoyable experience. And it's cheaper and more practical than a ffb wheel. And better than xbox gamepad. I played with mouse when the LFS came out. The turn is very precise but as it has no recentering you have to play looking at the position of the steering wheel. In addition, the accelerator and brake must be digital.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
  14. Why everyone here still compare Mouse with a Steering Wheel, i dont understand it. If i can make a lap time and a steering wheel user made the same or sometimes slower, that's all. I know i can play really good with Mouse Steering and i dont need right now a steering wheel, i use steering wheel for 4 years and i know how Assetto Corsa FFB feels in my hands and i love it, but now i havent it because i sold the g27, i need the money. So my question was if someone know about Mouse Steering option in the new Assetto Corsa Competizione, that's all, i dont want you to tell me what Steering Wheel buy, how i need to play, that i need a gamepad, etc etc.. because i'm not here to read that.

    W = Throttle
    S = Brake
    E= Shift up
    F = Shift Down
    A-D = Look left-right

    Assetto Corsa have a great system for Mouse Steering users that you'll not find in ANY other simulator, that the Keyboard user have a -35% throttle when the car is about to spin, to make it smoother because the key input is 1-0-1-0-1-0 so if you tap the key you're using 100% throttle, instead of that you're using 65% until the tyre of the car stop spining (drifting) from the outside of the corner. It will overheat and you'll spin like a steering wheel user if you dont stop throttlin or countersteering to save the car, but that makes the car accelerate smooth at the corners exit, maybe i'm +0.1 sec slower than a steering wheel user in that moment, but if you're behind the car you'll catch him easily until the next corner and repeat...
    If my pc was better i can record and show everyone how a Mouse Steering looks when you spend 8 months playing with it and you'll almost dont notice difference from a steering wheel user video, but sadly my CPU usage is alwasy 80-99% in AC and Gpu usage around 50-70% because i have 4x phenom ii from 2009 and i need to change Motherboard+CPU+Ram if i want something better, we're talking about 600 u$s in my country for the lowest performance change but that's not good for the future of gaming, if i'll spend money chaning my pc i need better things, around 1000u$s and that's a lot here.
     
  15. You know that AC has background 'Hand Of God' assists turned on (that can't be turned off, no matter what you have set in the options) when using mouse and keyboard, right?
     
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  16. Yeah, read up-comment is what i said, and i know about it, anyway i can drive without it, i disable that using vJoy to emulate Steering Wheel axis on Mouse Steering and FreePie script to emulate keyboard for SteeringWheel buttons + Axi throttle Brake Clutch, specially for Drifting
     
  17. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    Wow, last time I played like this was NFS 1. Good old days, but I really don't want to go back.
     
  18. Sleeper Service

    Sleeper Service Hardcore Simmer

    Sorry @Mateo De Bonis , wasn't trying to tell you you should get a wheel. Brought back some fantastic memories, kudos to you for what you manage to achieve :cool:
     
  19. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    I can't even remember which car/series it was now but I can confirm Mateo definitely kicked my *** in an SRS race recently :)
     
  20. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Mouse controls need full time forced ABS and TC for all cars, as its actually impossible to control brake and throttle with basically one of these if not massively assisted by electronics.

    [​IMG]

    Saying that ACC with gt3 cars that have assists electronics enabled. I dont see why they would remove mouse steering even if only used by very few. It would be the same as removing gamepad support as this also needs outside assists to be competitive with wheel users.

    Im fairly sure they are looking for more customers not less so limiting input devices would simply be a bad move.
     

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