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Generic Best Customs Championship Configuration

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by MaxStrong01, Oct 13, 2017.

  1. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    in AC there are many cars but except some few for the majority there are not clear indications to which class they could make part of. For instance how many people knows that the Evora GTC and the 911 GT3 Cup raced together in a class callled GTC? Also the performance indicators frequently do not help so much as they do not fully reflect the lap times.
    Based on what above and as I realized that I am not the only one interested than I want to ask the people community about to share their experience about the creation of competitive and equilibrated Customs Championships. Please possibly specify at least the Cars, the Tracks and the number of Laps.
    To have a competitive championships the cars should have similar performances inside the same class with few seconds of difference per lap.
    Thank you in advance
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  3. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Hardcore Simmer

    I created a thread like this one some time ago :D
    http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...e-your-custom-championship-combination.46784/

    I hope it has sucess this time

    Classic Cars
    • Cars (ordered by speed, difference between fastest and slowest car of 1 second more or less): Ferrari F40>Ruf CTR Yellowbird=Ford GT40
    • Tracks:
    1. Black Cat County Short: Very difficult
    2. Highlands drift: Very difficult
    3. Monza 66 Full Course: Alien
    4. Nordschleife: Very difficult
    5. Silverstone 60: Very difficult
    6. Zandvoort: Difficult
    7. Vallelunga Classic: Very difficult
    edit: typos
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2017
  4. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    This an interesting combination for classic cars. Do you used road liveries for gt40?

    Here is the a combination for the above mentioned GTC cars:

    - Cars: Porsche 911 GT3 Cup, Lotus Evora GTC, Praga R1. The cars on the main tracks are in a couple of secs. Only racing liveries ( for the Lotus you have only 3)
    Tracks:
    1. Spa
    2. Barcelona GP
    3. Brands Hatch
    4. Mugello
    5. Zandvoort
    6. Nurburgring Endurance

    Laps 14 except Nurburgring Endurance which are only 3.
    Level: Very Hard
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  5. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Hardcore Simmer

    Yep. I try to avoid the racing ones on that championship because the other two are road cars.
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  6. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    When we talked about this in the other thread,i was refering to like,recreate real life championships from the past or modern days.But for road cars,this idea is very good!i'll post in short time 4 or 5 classic f1/endurance championships,with real driver's name and liveries that resemble the most (or are the official ones) their teams
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  7. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Hardcore Simmer

    Oh, I have a "couple" of those too. I will post a video with the custom championship I have cuz I could do 20 posts for all the championships (although I have raced in very few of them).
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  8. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    just like me,i have made 10 or more championships,they're all set and ready to go but i only did 3 or 4 of them :D
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  9. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Here the GTE Cars Championship:

    Cars: Corvette C7R,
    I understand what you say only I wonder with how much accuracy you want to recreate these championship. I mean only cars, cars and tracks, liveries, teams, regulations... if you are thinking only to cars there is some championship that can be arranged: Gt3, Gte, Gt4 (with some compromise) Le Mans Series (partially as Lmp2 are missing), VLN, Carrera Cup, Lamborghini Supertrofeo, Ferrari Fxx Trophy, Audi Cup, Abarth 500 Trophy, BMW 1M Cup, McLaren Series, DTM 90’s, Trofeo Maserati Granturismo Gt4,and some few others. I recreated these championship and will post the less known.
    Whether instead you are thinking to a very high level of championship reproduction I think it is not possible with AC as are missing tracks, liveries, comoleteness of cars, regulations, teams...
    For me the major limit is also the limitation to only 16 cars on track. For instance this compromise a lot the VLN reproduction despite we have the majority of cars and tracks in the game.
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  10. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    Ok,so right now i can present you guys to 5 championships: A 67, 72, 1976 and 1986 seasons of F1 and 1968-1969 WSC. Note that, of course, we only have a couple of cars from that era (in some cases,only one...) so i use liveries that resemble some team and put the respective real driver on the wheel of that car.Like,red f1 cars=Ferraris.On other situations,the cars didnt really drove toghether on track,but since they are only a few years apart,i'll ignore that fact.(like the Porsche 911 3.0=early Porsches 911 from mid '60s.close enough :D)As soon as the Ferrari Pack arrives for consoles,i can add at least 3 cars to the championships.As for tracks, some we have,some we dont.When we dont,i try to put a track from the same country of the real calendar race. Some are made up: i use Highlands short as Monaco (street circuit,right?:p), Highlands as Clermont-Ferrand/Rouen Les Essarts, Highlands Long as Le Mans, and Blackcat County as any track from USA. In some cases, the nº of drivers will excceed the 16 car field; just choose a couple of ones (mind the huge loss of performance of AC when playing in Nords with more than 10 cars!)

    1967 F1 championship
    Car: Lotus 49
    Race distance:10% of real life race(300km*30%=30km;30km=x laps, depending on the track)
    Notes about the drivers:back then, drivers switched teams very easily, so dont be surprised if you see a driver you know from one team racing for another in my list. Some teams had more than 2 drivers (some had 4-5...),i choosed only the more important/famous
    Livery nº / team / Driver(s)
    5 / Lotus / Jim Clark
    Default / Lotus / Graham Hill
    02;05 / Brabham / Jack Brabham; Jochen Rindt
    12;15 / Mclaren / Bruce Mclaren; Denny Hulme
    7;18;20 / Ferrari / Lorenzo Bandini; Chris Amon
    29;32;34 /BRM / Pedro Rodriguez; Jackie Stewart
    22 / Matra / Jean Pierre Beltoise; Johnny Gavin
    Calendar:
    Highlands Short - 30 laps; Zandvoort - 5 laps; Spa - 3 laps; Highlands - 4 laps; Silverstone 67 - 5 laps; Nordschleife Endurance - 2 laps; Monza 66 - 5 laps; Blackcat County - 5 laps

    1972 F1 Championship
    Car: Lotus 72

    Again, multiple drivers per team; only selected two for each team
    Livery nº / Team / Driver
    Lotus 5 / Lotus / Emmerson Fittipaldi; David Walker
    Lotus Gold 2 / Ferrari / Jackie Ickx; Clay Regazzoni
    15;16 / Tyrrell / Jackie Stewart; François Cevert
    13;14 / Mclaren / Peter Revson; Denny Hulme
    5;6 / March / Ronnie Peterson; Niki Lauda
    3;4 / BRM / Jean Pierre Beltoise; Peter Gethin
    11;12 / Brabham / Graham Hill; Carlos Reutemann
    7;8 / Williams Motul / Henri Pescarolo; Carlos Pace
    Calendar:
    Brands Hatch - 8 laps; Barcelona GP - 8 laps; Highlands Short - 30 laps; Spa - 3 laps; Zandvoort - 5 laps; Highlands - 4 laps; Silverstone 67 - 5 laps; Nords.Endurance - 2 laps; RedBull Ring - 7 laps; Blackcat County - 5 laps


    1976 F1 Championship
    Cars: Ferrari 312t ; Lotus 72

    Ferrari nº 1 - Niki Lauda
    Ferrari nº2 - Clay Regazzonni
    Lotus 72

    Livery nº / team / driver
    13;14 / Mclaren / James Hunt; Jochen Mass
    Lotus 5 / Lotus / Mario Andretti; Gunnar Nilson
    15;16 / Tyrrell / Jody Scheckter; Patrick Depailler
    5,6 / Brabham / Rolf Stommlen; Carlos Reutemann
    Lotus 2 / March / Vittorio Brambilia; Hans Stuck
    7;8 / Wolf Williams / Hans Binder; Warwick Brown
    11;12 / Ensign / Chris Amon; Jacky Ickx
    9 / Hesketh / Guy Edwards; Harald Ertl

    Calendar:
    Barcelona GP - 10 laps; Spa; 3 laps ; Highlands Short - 30 laps; Imola - 10 laps; Brands Hatch - 12 laps; Nords.End - 2 laps; Redbull Ring - 11 laps ; Zandvoort - 12 laps; Monza - 9 laps ; Blackcat County - 5 laps

    1986 F1 Championship
    Car: Lotus 98T

    The best one to recreate, because all the liveries reseamble a lot some teams, and from the 80s, f1 started to look much like the same. Too bad the calendar is not that good because some missing tracks...

    Liverie nº / team / driver
    11,12 / Lotus / Ayrton Senna; Johnny Dumfries
    13,14 / Williams / Nigel Mansell; Nelson Piquet
    17,18 / Mclaren / Alain Prost; Keke Rosberg
    5,6 / Ferrari / Michele Alboreto; Stefan Johansson
    2 / Tyrrell / Martin Brundle; Phillipe Streiff
    8,9 / Arrows / Thierry Boutsen; Cristian Danner
    19,20 / Bennetton / Gehard Berger; Teo Fabi
    9,10 / Ligier / Jacques Laffite; Rene Arnoux
    3,4 / Minardi / Andrea de Cesaris; Alessandro Nannini

    Calendar:
    Barcelona GP - 10 laps; Imola - 10 laps; Highlands Short - 30 laps; Spa - 3 laps; Blackcat County - 5 laps; Highlands - 4 laps; Brands Hatch - 12 laps; Nurburgring GP - 6 laps; Redbull Ring - 11 laps; Monza - 9 laps

    1968/1969 World Sportscar Championship

    Well, this one is two years put in one, since the GT40 and the Porsche 908 have liveries from both those years, so why the hell not? :p
    As for race legenth...most endurace races were ran in 1000km.1000km spa,1000km brands hatch...so,like in f1 championships,i did the 10% rule.so,100km equals x laps in different circuits. For races with time,like 24h Le Mans, i just do a higher number of laps that the rest of the races

    Ford GT40
    Livery nº / team / drivers
    Gulf 6 / John Wyer / Jacky Ickx; Jackie Oliver
    Gulf 7 / Jonh Wyer / David Hobbs; Mike Hailwood
    Gulf 9 / John Wyer / Pedro Rodriguez; Lucien Bianchi
    9 / Alan Man Racing / Frank Gardner; Malcom Guthrie

    Porsche 908
    Liverie nº / team / drivers
    64 / Porsche / Hans Herrmann (69 season); Gerard Larousse
    33 / Porsche / Rolf Stommlen; Jochen Neerpasch
    32 / Porsche / Gerhard Mitter; Vic Elford
    31 / Porsche / Jo Siffert; (Hans Herrmann in 1968 season)

    For multi class racing, the rest of the field is composed by Porsche 911 3.0 (a 1973 car, but whatever,looks a bit like a 911 from 1968/69 and its outclassed by the GT40/908 anyways; a Alfa Romeo GTA,to have variety on the field, and a Shelby Cobra,because this car raced in europe too. Since this 3 cars are not that important,i didnt care about drivers or teams. A Charley Rico, Luciano Molina or a Marko Badoer dude will do the job :D:D:D
    Calendar:
    Blackcat County - 10 laps; Brands Hatch - 26 laps; Monza full - 17 laps; Spa - 15 laps; Nords.Endurance - 5 laps; Highlands Long - 24 laps; Redbull Ring - 24 laps

    I will try to do a 1963 f1 championship, 1970 WSC, 80's Group C, and GT3 in the next days!
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2017
  11. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    oh yes,unfortunatly we cant do a 100% real championship,not a single one :( what we can do is select a couple of cars and tracks from said championship.and sometimes,in classic f1 cars,"pretend" that those cars are other cars...for me,the lotus 72 with a white/red livery is a Mclaren driven by James Hunt :D:p and of course,no regulations or whatsoever...so,its safe to say that its a rather "arcade" recreation for championships
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  12. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Wow! I can only say what a great job. I am impressed.
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  13. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Here down I list tthe GTE Championship which is easy to create. Sorry I did not have the impressive level of details of Hugo regarding the drivers name and team name but I only grouped the cars which competed in this class. Regarding the tracks the most important Le Mans is missing so if you like you can replace it with Highlands Long. Personally I simply miss it.
    Cars: (you can recognize the GTE from GT3 because they have not abs and have super soft tyres)
    Ferrari 458 GT2 (also today despite it is old car some private teams with los budget still use it in Endurance competitions)
    BMW M3 GT2 (same as per Ferrari above)
    Scuderia Glickenhouse P 4/5
    Corvette C7 R
    Porsche 911 GT3 RSR 2017

    Liveries:
    Ferrari AF Corse
    BMW Official, Falken, rest up to you
    Corvette: official yellow livery
    Porsche: official Porche

    Tracks: (the tracks where the Endurance series are raced in reality)
    Spa 30 laps
    Silverstone GP: 32 laps
    Monza: 32 laps
    Nurburgring GP GT: 34 laps
    Brands Hatch: 34 laps
    Red Bull Ring: 34 laps
    Please take note GTE races are on 24/8/6 hours but as this is not possible I used 30/34 laps to have enough long races.

    If you reduce the number of GTE and add the LMP1 Porsche, Toyota and Audi you have recreated the Le Mans Series.
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  14. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    Thanks :) i did this stuff months ago,when the custom championship update was out
    Great stuff as well!Le Mans missing is like a punch in the stomach,very very painfull :(
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  15. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Yes I agree it is really a bad missing
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  16. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Hi Hugo for the 1968/69 World Sports car Championship in multiclass version do you think it could be considered the Ford Escort?
  17. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    The escort is a '70s car,i didnt used because it was not quite from that era.sure the Porsche 911 3.0 is also from the 70s,but in its case,its an improvement of an already existing car in the '60s,unlike the escort.But if you want more variety on the field,go ahead,i did used the escort a couple of times.but i used it more for the 1970 WSC,which i maybe post today ;)
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  18. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Hardcore Simmer

  19. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Thank you guys for having shared your configurations. As soon as possible (now I out of home) I wish to set up some championship inspired from your road cars and F1 championships.
    Here down I want to share with you my VLN Championship configuration:
    Preamble: VLN race only on the various configuration of the Nurburgring/Nordschleife. Normally there are 4/5 dates per year. The lower class is made by normal cars with just some light preparation and this is the characteristic of VLN. It have a very complicate class system so I list here down the main possible in AC.
    Classes & Cars:
    GT3: 911 RSR 2016 - Mercedes SLS and AMG GT3 - BMW Z4 GT3 - the rest up to you.
    Audi TT VLN Cup: single car class
    Porsche Carrera Cup: single car class
    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport: single car class
    BMW235 Cup: BMW 235 Racing
    Toyota GT86 Cup: this car is not in the game. We have only the road version so personally I miss it.
    Light Prepared Cars: i use here the BMW 1M with race liveries and eventually similar performance Cars like Lotus Exige 240R stage 3 or any other equivalent.
    Tracks/Laps:
    Nurburgring Endurance/6
    Nurburgring GP GT/25
    Nordschleife/8
    Nurburgring Endurance Cup/6

    The real issue with the reproduction of VLN is the very limited number of cars AC permit on track.
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  20. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    thats great,i remember we had something similar to this in the WHL!i will do this one for sure! :)
  21. MaxStrong01

    MaxStrong01 Racer

    Hi Hugo I replicated the F1 1986 Championship and it was a great stuff. How many fantastic drivers that year Senna, Piquet, Prost, Mansell, Berger...
    You inspired me to improve the details of some Champioship like in the case of GT3, WEC and others. When I will complete them I will share them.

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