Driver Ranked Servers

P2P is where you start a race and people can join your race, so your race is the server as well, people join your race, not your server and you don’t join anything.

Dedicated server is a seperate application. You can run it on whatever PC you like but you need to join it yourself still, and it runs wether you are in it or not. Generally you would want to run this on systems connected with a good internet connection as upload bandwidth matters a lot

 

b) AC has its own history and culture

I love this sentence

 

its the most stupid excuse ive ever heard

 

Don’t think it’s stupid, historically they have not charged a subscription for MP based on whatever beliefs they have about doing so.

Also as seems unreasonable to ask for the same as what someone else is doing but without wanting to pay the same as what that someone else is charging for their system

 

Did you hear an excuse ???_
it's time to wash your ears._

 

i never said anything about pay a sub or pricing at all, just a similar setup to iracing regarding organization, ppl have mentioned the pricing simply to try and discredit my comment

 

Well you missed the key point.

How many would be will to pay the monthly/annual subscription price on top of the base game to have such a system? Still it would be considerably cheaper then Iracing but with limited content in ACC will it really be a viable option?

I think it would be ok as I pay more to host my own servers anyway but would the userbase be large enough to make it valuable to the players if needing to pay subs, RF2 had some bizare MP subscription on launch while providing nothing in terms of servers you just paid for the privilege to then host or join other hosted servers. This actually turned me off RF2 back then as not only was the game mostly unfinished after the initial 12 months for all owners MP expired even though this was more like 2 years with EA. The MP was already mostly dead so why would you pay a sub for basic mp access with a small user base. There was an option to buy lifetime updates and MP for something like $100 instead of $60 with the initial game.

If not sub based what alternatives have we got that can get as good an mp experience without forcing Kunos to foot the bill which isnt ever going to happen on a massive scale like Iracing without extra user costs IMHO.​

 

Sorry, that part was not part of the reply to you, just too lazy to seperate the msg’s

 

It’s heartening to know that the devs are listening to all our argumentative ramblings. The problem domain is pretty broad when it comes to MP though.

Minolin, are there any specific MP-related problems or questions that you’re currently battling with that you think the community can help with?

 

Okay, thanks for the clarification, so I get that if you want to run a dedicated server in the true sense i.e no client at all on a machine the current method is adequate. I still think that if you are a casual player and very average PC user a simpler in-game integrated method would be better , it may appear to be P2P to the uninitiated but would start the server in the background.

 

AC already has the iracing style MP system, it's called booking servers, they implemented it because people kept saying "make AC like iracing"... nobody joins them.

 

this must be a troll post

 

Thanks it's really helpful to know what you are chewing over.
What did you make of my 'more slots that drivers ' idea with MR managing the spectator queue order?
You can be honest

 

The less options, the better, don't split the community, this isn't a massive game.


This is a game focused on eSports, the "AC multiplayer culture" has nothing to do here, is a totally different philosophy.
eSports are not possible with community servers and of course with P2P neither. Multiplayer based on P2P is the worst option.

A subscription is not necessary, iRacing is totally overpriced because was the first and until now the unique option.

A server for Assetto Corsa cost 6$ a month, 32 players. Around 100 servers are necessary for 3000 players, I calculate for you: 600$/month

Now remember the feature to host races for 1$/h (the best feature in iRacing in my opinion), let's say 25 races each hour, 600 races a day, 600€ a day. In one day they can pay the cost of the servers for a month.

Now tell me why this is not viable.

Of course this is a bit strictly, the server pool can be managed dinamically based on demand, Google about agones (Google cloud tech, very interesting reading)

 

The "AC multiplayer culture" is what keeps me and my friends playing AC. We're a group with +-12 members and very few of us are willing to pay for racing. if you have to pay for a race (even if it's just 1€) they won't get the game. I'm pretty sure of this. IMHO paying to race won't split the community, it will reduce it.
I guess kunos know what the focus of this game is. And the "AC multiplayer culture" has something to do with it.

 

No one is forced to pay, you and yours friends can race on any of the public races hosted(paid) for someone else. And, in any case, 1$ between 12 people not sound like a big deal.

Watch ACC's trailer again, this is a totally different thing, "Is time to get back on track, seriously"

For an online like AC we already have AC (&Raceroom&Rfactor2&pCARS2&Automovilista...), there is nothing like iRacing and that's is what ACC want to be.

 

It's an interesting conundrum and there will be many opinions on how to best implement a rating/safety system. Is there actually a correct answer?

As ACC is "The official Blancpain Game", the most fundamental part would be a virtual race director or clerk of the course.

If some one driving in blancpain starts raming all around, dive bombing and generally driving like a large number of drivers that MR has managed to filter from MR-AB servers, they will be black flagged and most likely lose their race licence.
ACC should be no different, if it is to simulate the blancpain series it should enforce the same rules

(IMHO - but I have a low tolerance for wreckers and selfish/reckless drivers)

 

I couldn't agree more, the lack of respect some drivers demonstrate is simply staggering. If thats how they want to conduct themselves online they should only be able to join servers with like minded disrespectful racers.

Wasnt there a game where cheats/hackers could only join server with other hackers? You reap what you sow and all that!