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Think you have absolutely hit the nail on the head with one word.... 'clinical'. That's exactly I how feel about it. All the numbers add up and its doing everything right but there's a missing secret sauce.

Anyone coming out with quotes like 'well real teams use xyz sim' need to remember that real teams don't use sims to excite and entertain, they use them to train and test. I'll hazard a guess that not one pro driver has ever felt their heart rate increase whilst playing a sim. On the other hand, if anyone remembers Greger Huttu getting the chance to drive a star mazda a few years ago, you'll recall the sensory overload and physicality of it made him quite ill.

 

Well rFactor 2 entertains many people a lot, by being able to run a full field of up to 100 of challenging aggressive, yet disciplined AI, race rules for many series, safety car, offline pitstops, animated marshals, dynamic real-road rubber built-up over a race weekend and dynamic weather and with good keyboard steering support.
Entertainment-wise it's less clinical than Assetto Corsa.

 

Be careful after 3 months cause that is their initial bait...like a drug dose, and once you start buying extra content and find that you already spent a few hundred dollars you are theirs and then will be hard to get off and you will continue to pay the subscription at $100 a year and that is where they make the money...like a cable company...that's a very clever marketing scheme they use a bit similar to drug dealers.

And speaking of 4000 people online...don't be fooled...it actually means the number of people logged in and not the people on racing servers. The vast majority just stay logged on all day just chatting on forum, and you can see that the number of people actually racing is most of the time even smaller than in AC or rF2...

 

The rFactor2 AI's behaviour in this race (1st race against ai) is very impressive!

 

Did you guys know that now there is a free application that converts any rF1 mod or track to GSC in just a couple of minutes? (just for personal use of course). Its called rfactor tools: http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rfactortools.1954/

And speaking of that there are some legenday mods that need to be tried on GSC like DRM revival (Porsche 935) or the new released Virtua LM with its 58 cars, such as the Porsche 956, Lancia LC-2, and Jaguar XJR-5, to name just a few, all modelled to look identical to their real life variants.Never before has a collaboration of artists and engineers came together to produce such a mod for rFactor.Enjoy!

https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Virtua LM GTPC

 

Can it convert the graphics from 1998 to 2015?

 

Nice try but rfactor was released in 2005 so only mods after that...

 

Indeed, there are also a lot of parameters that can be tweaked to change their behavior, such as aggression or the field spread.

http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/12831-The-definitive-AI-Settings-Thread

 

The rFactor 1 engine is still pretty capable

 

Hey fellas,
the fact that professional teams use rF1, rF2 or GSCE2013 has the following impact on my behaviour: I will give those sims a try because they must be good, somehow. But if I find that the sim, for whatever reason, doesn't satisfy my expectations I won't use it, even if each racing team in the world is using it!
Also, I agree with what has been said before - pro teams are probably chasing numbers more than a virtual racing buzz, that doesn't mean it's the right choice for Johnny Average in front of his PC!
Now I'm outta here.

 

That is perfectly understandable, I'm just trying to make a bit of justice when people says that rF engine is dated, or inferior, etc without any solid facts other than their "feel". But as gamers, we play whatever we enjoy the most, that's clear.

 

Those the numbers you're talking about eventually translate to what the driver feels and many pro teams also use motion simulators.
Also rF1, rF2, GSCE have more features regarding "virtual racing buzz" to simulate a race weekend, such as proper AI, offline pit stops, safety car, race rules, day/night cycles, animated marshals etc. For Johnny Average in front of his PC it even goes so far as to provide proper steering assist for keyboard and gamepad players, something AC doesn't even provide, since earlier variants of these engines have been used in many mainstream EA titles.
http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/22387-rFactor-2-s-keyboard-steering-support

So the argument that they are not for Johnny Average in front of his PC isn't valid.

 

Ooh, GSC thread.

Yeah, I always heard good things about it, but was reluctant to shell £22 on it because all I could see was that it was a standalone rFactor payware mod. Well, I finally caved, and how wrong I was to put it off... I like the physics and feel just as much as, if not a tad more than, AC right now, and am even about to start competing in a league. With stock content! They've done really awesome things here.

 

And also the quality of the drivers there is amazing. I've been playing online for almost a week now and I didn't see any noobs or wreckers yet, just well seasoned, polite and experienced racers. Yesterday I had an awesome time at Brasilia track in the V8's, with a great bunch of people with very close lap times with differences in the range of hundredths of a sec. Great place to be if you enjoy close and clean racing.

 

AC physics feel incomplete when compared to GSCE or RF2.

FFB on AC gives way too much informations, that's why the majority think "it feels better" or even worse "it has better physics".

When you enter real data to RF2, it works like real life to some extent, it's not the case for AC, you always have to use workarounds and substitute models

 

99% of people just repeat the "trend". A blog post by DK, interview with Gjon, Neils or some other like those is what influence opinion in the end, because in reality the vast majority simple has no clue nor "solid facts".

If wasn´t for Neils/Simioni and Reiza i doubt anyone would dare to say that rf1 engine is in anyway "advanced", specially in 2015, 10 years after.

 

I've heard that quite a few people are transitioning to SCE (GSC) for online play recently. The main thing missing for me is the lack of VR support.

 

blind people would say red, & they would be right, so bad example

 

Yep, I have to throw my hands up and agree. Don't get me wrong, I still love how AC feels as much as I always do, but GSC has this extra sparkle deep down that I can't quite put my finger on.