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Is it possible to do this Barcelona layout?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Trezoitao38, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer



    We can compare times if we can run on this layout.
     

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  3. f1webberfan

    f1webberfan Simracer

    Ummm ...
    The circuit has 2 layouts.
    Just check the Barcelona MOTO layout.
    upload_2017-11-18_19-2-34.png
     
  4. Rigel

    Rigel Alien

    In the video turn 10 is from the GP layout, last corner is from the moto one.
     
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  5. Flavus

    Flavus Racer

    The track showed by OP was the original GP track before the chicane was added in 2007 to improve safety and bunch the cars up to promote overtaking. I think the moto track available in the game is not the one in the OP's video
     
  6. Tomcul

    Tomcul Hardcore Simmer

    Should be possible to make it as a separate layout we have all the parts of track needed just to edit a few bits move a few cones around and make a new AI line..
     
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  7. Well, you would think that Barcelona National would also be a relative breeze to implement, but I don't see any sign of that one being added to the list....
     
  8. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    Are Barcelona Club and National ever used? I can’t find any evidence that they are.

    The linking track sections do look maintained though unlike Mugello short circuit. The dev’s haven’t included Mugello short circuit as they say it hasn’t been used for years.
     
  9. henri

    henri Hardcore Simmer

    Name might give some clues. So maybe they use those in Club and National series. :rolleyes:

    I think DTM used National layout when they raced in Barcelona.
     
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  10. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    Fair enough, but if they do there doesn’t seem to be evidence of it. Even track days seem to use the full circuit.

    More layouts of the existing circuits would be great though.
     
  11. zzdreamerzz

    zzdreamerzz Racer

  12. f1webberfan

    f1webberfan Simracer

    Ok, I don't want to argue ... but the Moto layout in the game ... has the GP turn 10 and the MOTO last corners. Just like the OP video.
    How is this corner different from this corner:
    upload_2017-11-20_2-37-57.png
    And this is from the wiki page of the track.
    2004-2006
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Catalunya_(2004-2006).svg
    now
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Catalunya.svg

    So the version of the game is fictional or what?

    I think you are mistaken @Rigel .

    Yes, they changed corner 10 a bit but that was after 2003.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Circuit_Catalunya_1995-2003.svg
     
  13. sacredaardvark

    sacredaardvark Hardcore Simmer

    What on earth are you talking about? :confused:

    The path of the GP layout is the path blocked by the red & white arrow signs in your AC pic. GP corner is a lot tighter and takes a shorter path than the Moto.

    Moto (1:30->):


    GP (1:15->):
     
  14. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Didnt they change Barcelona layout for motogp in the last year or so after a fatility the year before. I think the moto layout in game is the same layout the bikes used until this fairly recent change. Now the ingame mot layout isnt used by anyone.
     
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  15. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    Yes, the moto GP race also now uses a chicane at the end of the lap, different to the F1 chicane though. They use the tighter F1 profile of La Caixa (T10) now also according to racingcircuits.info.

    I’m not sure which T10 we have in game.
     
  16. henri

    henri Hardcore Simmer

    This year they made a new chicane option for MotoGP. It had better kerbs for bikes but they ditched it after the FP1. Riders hated it even more than the F1 chicane.
    [​IMG]

    Some people try to make this too hard. We don't have OP layout (New T10 old last turns). MotoGP-layout in game is same as F1 used 2003 and before that.
     
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  17. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    Yes, Henri.

    Moto layout is what was used in F1 before the track was changed with the chicane and the different T10 and this was used until last year in MotoGP, but due to a fatal crash they now use the GP chicane at the end and due to safety concerns (too short run off to the tyres/wall) at T10 the tighter turn there as well.


    Although I have to say that the Moto layout by far is the better track, but modern F1 castrated some great tracks either to have better racing (which there isn't IMO) or only to have the cars slow down so spectators can see them longer.
    RIP: Castrol S on Nürb. GP, old Spa Bus Stop, old Monza double chicane, old Hockenheim overall and Barcelona
    Edit: forgot Silverstone (cringe-worthy)
    Looks like F1 ruined some great tracks, thank god they are not tacing on Mugello!
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2017
  18. f1webberfan

    f1webberfan Simracer

    Man, just look at where the grandstand starts.

    What @Schnipp said as well.

    And also it depends from each year you are looking at the track. And since the OP is clearly from 2004 - therefore what I said.
     
  19. sacredaardvark

    sacredaardvark Hardcore Simmer

    Sorry, thought were talking about the corner on the track, not the scenery. My bad I guess. -_-
     
  20. f1webberfan

    f1webberfan Simracer

    Just use it as cross-reference.
    What do you think? They moved the corner or the grandstand?
     
  21. TheRealJuralumin

    TheRealJuralumin Simracer

    [​IMG]

    This is the layout. It’s using a hybrid of the two in-game ones. 10 & 11 are from the GP course, and 13 & 14 are from the Moto one. This doesn’t exist in game, but could very easily be created as all the files are there. But I doubt Kunos will create it because this is an outdated layout from before the chicane was paved at 13 & 14. As far as I know no one uses this setup for races nowadays.
     
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