Manual H-Shifter with clutch cars are much more fun to drive than the paddle shifters

I have mine th8a on table and it is fine .. Higher than in most real cars but not causing any discomfort ... Than as handbrake or seq it is in perfect position .. or you can try to mount it on your chair

 

How much resistance do you get when you use it as handbrake?

 

not much ... I guess main advatage is that it is analogue ... I usualy just use it as handbrake in seq. mode as I`m lazy to transform it and set it in drivers to handbrake ...

 

Has anyone found a way to improve the gate on a logtech G25 shifter? I am liking using the manual gear selection (MX5 Cup racing at Brands with new AI is a blast!) but find the gate a bit "loose"

I would also like to use it for a trip-tronic box but with clutch but I understand you can not configure it that way?

Salute
Friar

 

By trip-tronic you mean sequential/paddle shift cars? In that case, no you can't, the clutch is automatic, just like in reality.

 

With the default launcher I don't know an easy way to allow the sequential shifter to be used (without changing the control inputs).

With Content Manager though you could create multiple control presets, a default one and one set up for sequential mode.
You can then choose a car-specific controls preset to be used for every car, though this would only make sense for those cars with a sequential stick. (or all sequential and flappy paddle cars if that's what you like)


Another option might be with Content Manager (haven't actually tried).
CM allows a KB button alongside the wheel to be used for the sequential up-/downshift, so select two KB buttons for it and then map both the sequential shifter and the wheel shifter paddles to those two buttons with a Joy2Key software, then you can use either version without the need to switch.

There are sequential/paddle shifted cars with a manual clutch, like modern F1, GT3, GT2.
Though you only use the clutch to get the car rolling, not for the actual shifting.

 

I thought with trip-tronic he was referring to street cars, although I'm not familiar with the term.

Apart from that, it is recommended to use the clutch on the MC12 IRL, iirc.
But yes, most of the race cars with a sequential gear box do have a manual clutch.

 

I took the 'tip-tronic' part as the sequential mode of the G25 shifter where you can switch between H-pattern and sequential, although those aren't individual buttons, but the up movement triggers the same button as gear 1 and the down movement the one for gear 2 of the H-pattern mode.

It would be easier/better if Logitech would use individual buttons for each.



But I don't think there's a way to reduce the play/slack of the shifter itself.

 

sorry chaps, by "trip-tronic" it was a bad attempt at describing the feature of the G25 shifter where you can change from an H-gate to a locked up and down (for use on cars that have a manual gear box and not paddle shifts)

So what I was trying to achieve was a way round the "loose" gate of the G25 but still having to use the clutch, which seems is not possible.

Salute
Friar

 

No, I think for H-shifter cars you either have to use the H-pattern with manual clutch (or optinal auto-clutch as driving aid) or using the paddles but with forced auto-clutch and iirc forced throttle cut.

 

I have an old G25 that I've opened and cleaned and fixed on several occasions due to it's less than stellar internals - broken wires etc. The H gate is very loose and toy like but there are ways to strengthen it and get a better feel and throw of the shifter arm.
There is a spring mod that places a spacer into the shifter arm spring that tightens the side to side movement and the up/down too. It is a cheap fix and is easy to do but is very tricky to reassemble the whole unit due to the increased pressure on the spring and ball bearing. Go to Youtube and find the G25 shifter mod video for instructions on how to do the mod. Much easier and surprisingly effective is the rubber band around the gear stick trick. Get the heavy rubber bands that are used for produce in the supermarket - or a few - and wrap around the two tightening rods on the shifter body and the shifter rod. If you criss-cross some lighter bands around the arm, you can adjust the tension to the point that it will require effort to get into gear. Also, I have velcro around the inside edge of the of the H Gate opening to kill the clacky sound of the gear changes. This too, helps provide a bit of resistance to the movements of the shifter.

 

Heusinkveld showed a prototype of their H-Shifter at the Simracing Expo:


Svend from Heusinkveld said that they did the setup at the Expo such that it matches old F1 cars like the one that is driven in the video (no idea which one that is).
They also gave the info that the 7+1 is not yet final and will depend on the feedback from the testers and that there are adjustable springs.
Especially it is possible to adjust the resistance for the outer right positions (usually gear 7 and R) independently.

No info so far on price and ETA.