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Max verstappen joins us

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by DomD, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. Avoletta

    Avoletta Simracer

    - missing aero forces dependency on body slip angle
    - wrong modeling of tire adherence vs vertical load
    - physics engine unable to work with extreme spring/antiroll rates
    - problematic behaviour on kerbs for cars with high suspension rates and reasonable tire damping ratios.

    All this issues become more and more relevant for cars with high aero loads, low mass and stiff suspension...
     
  2. misterbeam

    misterbeam Hardcore Simmer

    Well, i don't want to turn this thread into an OT :D

    I was just defending a mod that i participated to :)

    EDIT: well since avoletta answered, i will just paste what i was writing :D

    I few words:
    Modern openwheelers can be very stiff ... i mean extremly stiff, springs and ARBs (dampers as well)! and AC has an engine limitations that doesn't allow using high rates (causes weird bugs)!
    Interactive aerodynamics physics is a must for an openwheeler, rear aero depends on what's happening at the front and the rear not only the rear! and vice versa (interaction between front wing and diffuser for example)
    Tyre model is not well explained and needs more variables to be added, to get realistic grip and temperatures/pressure behaviour! it's more than enough for road cars and semislick tyres ... but, youcan't cook accurate slicks with it.

    Lack of setup options possibilities in general.
     
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  3. Apparently that part is harcoded into the engine.
     
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  4. Avoletta

    Avoletta Simracer

    Yes it is (checked now) and I think it's a pretty clever solution.
    My bad.
     
  5. Associat0r

    Associat0r Gamer

    Sideslip characteristics vary wildly, which you can't accurately model with a generic solution, unless you're doing a CFD simulation.
    You need to have control over it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2015
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  6. You won't really find data at all about such thing anyway. I've only seen data of one car, and it only covers up to 5 deg of yaw. I asked to another physics developer some time ago and told me pretty much the same.
     
  7. Associat0r

    Associat0r Gamer

    Aero sideslip is vital to oval racing from which I assume that data is more readily available and at more extreme angles. Also lots of data is said to be hard to come by for the average joe, but that's no excuse to have those capabilities lacking if the goal is to be a proper race sim that can be taken seriously by real race teams who might have that data.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2015
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  8. You would be surprised how much stuff is "guessed", even from your favourite sim.

    Sorry Dom for the OT, we should talk about Max instead :D
     
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  9. speeddrifter

    speeddrifter Hardcore Simmer

  10. He looked like he was sim racing at Spa ;)
     
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  11. JeDa

    JeDa Rookie

  12. bob76

    bob76 Racer

  13. Quffy

    Quffy Alien

    Promoting. I think team redline doesn't race/practice for pcars races. Which of course doesn't mean Max doesn't play Pcars, just that Playseat is commercially linked to project cars, so when Max went to their place, they could only use pcars for promotion.
     
  14. muscimol

    muscimol Gamer

  15. Tim Meuris

    Tim Meuris Simracer

    hmmm, he knew already that move on ericson was going to stick
    still bloody awesome
     
  16. mangal

    mangal Hardcore Simmer

    impressive driving.
     
  17. Jebus

    Jebus Alien

    Is there a same kind of tournaments for simracing as there's for, for example, CS:GO? I mean where all players are in the same place. Or how for example WC races that Greger Huttu has won was organized?
     
  18. misterbeam

    misterbeam Hardcore Simmer

    Greger rarely leaves home according to some well known video :D
     
  19. Jebus

    Jebus Alien

    Heh yeah. That made me thinking about it in the first place. But also I'm wondering how much time or will Max Verstappen would have to travel around the world simracing on top of his F1 duties.
     
  20. muscimol

    muscimol Gamer

    He once won Intel GP Masters. The race, was held as part of the Intel Extreme Masters tournament at CeBIT in Hannover in 2011 - Huttu Tops iRacing.com Intel GP Series World Final | iRacingNews.com.

    As for the iRacing World Championship there is a bit of information here:
    http://wcs.iracing.com/iracing-grand-prix-world-championship-series/
    People are driving directly from their homes but the events are watched by the stewards and broadcasted.
     
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