Mod Downloads to be Closed Indefinitely. (READ LAST REPLY)

If you haven't seen it already, here's the announcement:

https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/modding-section-subforums-terms-of-use.33407/

Seems due to ripped content etc, we can no longer host and provide download links to mods (cars, tracks, liveries etc), and are asked to move our content over to another domain (racedepartment I guess).

The modding subforum is to become only a Modding 'How To' section.

"Users can discuss about cars, tracks and everything else modding related in the general modding subforum."

So can anyone clarify on this statement^? Does this mean we can still host threads showing the progress of our mods, but not include download links? Or is this only a 'how to section'?

For example, my Transit Thread which is in the '3D Car Models' subforum (now locked), can be moved/replaced with on just in the General Modding Forum, or is that not allowed? Is says that releasing content on this forum is not allowed, but doesn't mention progress updates?

Just asking, since I really like the modding community here, and still want to host and keep progress updated here, but thought I should ask before making a new thread in the General Modding section?

@AC Support

 

Hello guys, I just saw a new update about how to use the modding section: https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/modding-section-subforums-terms-of-use.33407/.

I have approached AC thanks to Modding, and still modding is one of the few things that keep me bound to this game.

You did advertise your game as open to modding, making it one of the strongest selling point, along with physics accuracy and next gen graphics. Now, I don't want to argue about these last ones, this is not the place, but modding was a really important part of this game.
Lately modding was not anymore an important aspect, you just got along your way, providing not that much tools to the modders like you used to in the early days. But it was ok for me, after all, modding has never been something that you can buy at your local store, you have to have some skills.

I am not a forum admin, and I don't know if there's more under the hood, but I can't completely understand why did you, Kunos, decided that this platform, which has been source of high quality and certified originality content, is no more usable for sharing Modding content.
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Why do you Kunos treat us like so now? Do we all people who try to bring you quality content for your game, showing what your engine is capable of, count nothing?

Bah, honestly I have really few words about this move, lots of questions, and quite a few appellatives to describe it, but I won't post them here. May just, at least, have a clear and sincere answer to "why"?

"interminable discussions on the subforums resulting in a huge loss of time for the devs, moderators and those users that are very active in our community" sounds like an excuse, there's surely something more. and I'd like to know, since I, personally, do not think this is a valid reason to stop people from sharing their content on your site.

 

I'm basically guessing here, but a lot of people probably took "legal content" very lightly and therefore Kunos either wants to avoid having to deal with takedown notices or already got some takedown notices that led to this kind of decision.

 

Well personally I think its gonna fracture the community massively.

The way I see it is that they dont want to have to deal with the issues surrounding modding anymore so we will have to move it, racedepartment is the most likely option however their moderation is not acceptable, nogripracing is stuck in 2006 with its download caps, drivingitalia keeps corrupting their data, f1classic prevents new members from joining everynow and then. Nexus is the best option if people actually start using it.

Now i know this will become a bloodbath of a thread but you know i want it to be, i want kunos to see how much of an outrage this is.

 

Wtf...?

I mean, Devs, this will tear the community apart, it will stop all that made AC special and successfull. All the hard work many people have put into your work, for free. It will not stop the creators of rips, who had there communities outside of this forum anyway. if anything this will make it worse. The legit creators will move on onto other plattforms, taking there cars and tracks with them, they will probably take a dump onto all the rules and regulations you held up here on this forum, crack your cars, your tracks, and offer them up for other plattforms.

You just took away everything that made modding for this sim special. Just enforce harder rules, close threads with any hint of ripping or whatever. I mean you took the Miura, the Quattro and Zandvoort (iirc) from this part of the forum you now want to close down. I just don't get it.

 

There has always been ripped content on here. And it has always been exposed by other users or admins. There hasn't been a massive rise in ripped content lately so we (content creators) are finding this statement hard to understand.

This matters to a lot of us. So unless you have (sorry *had*) some content (cars, tracks) on these forums don't join the discussion.

 

I guess that's it then. was a nice journey with you, good bye.

 

Yeah... the Assetto Corsa Nexus website would be an option. It's basically abandoned wasteland now but it could be built up to the same standards as the Skyrim and Fallout Nexus sites with the right people.

Personally I'm not exactly happy with this even if I can understand why that decision was made. It will be a huge blow to modding in AC which is one of the titles main draws. Modding keeps games alive for many many years.

 

Not even in the General Modding Section, which as far as I know will not be closed?

I quote "Users can discuss about cars, tracks and everything else modding related in the general modding subforum." This to me suggests we can open threads discuss "Cars... and everything else modding related". This is what I want to do, NOT show download links, just to have a discussion about my mods. Ask questions, get help, feedback - that sort of thing. I see no reason, bearing in mind the statement shown above, why this should be disallowed.

 

Don't get me wrong, I really don't like the fact this happened as well, both as a player and a developer (of RaceEssentials app), there's really no need for either side to be excluded from this conversation. Something obviously did happen to cause this decision, most likely the staff got fed up with doing the work that shouldn't be theirs in the first place and this is the unfortunate outcome.

 

Not sure why its a big deal, RD is a much better place for mods as it supports email or normal notifications when an update is uploaded, provides version history, reviews etc.
I can appreciate its inconvenient to have to move your thread over, but still its not like they trying to cull modding, a support forum just isnt the best place to have tons of threads for individual mods.

I think this change may lead to bug reports getting better visibility too which would be a nice thing

 

That General Modding subforum will be cluttered like hell... and it will have people bend the rules too. I mean as long as I don't explicitly post a link to my content, am I allowed to open a thread named "My mod topic" to keep progress reports of my stuff and most importantly questions I have all in one place? The separation we had was perfect for this.

At least it is clear the "Physics" subforum is there to stay... without it all newcomers to modding would not have a chance to get going. I read that wrong initially.

but also gone in a weeks time:

Car materials / shaders / modelling stuff (add your knowledge here)
~8000 views, full of valuable info for newcomers. I may try saving it somehow, but where to go with it?

Build your first TRACK - BASIC GUIDE
63000 views

Track Materials / Shaders
43000 views


your shovelling your own grave in terms of non-ripped mod creation

 

just loooooooooooooool

 

All that precious info in the track modding section will be gone forever
Keep it read only maybe?

 

Condense the track modding info into one thread in the general modding section, maybe?

 

Wow. Strangest decision ever. Take away the only thing that kept me here.

 

I think its worded fairly clearly and people trying to bend the rules will simply be banned from the forum, the rules are set and sure its a shame the modding sections will be shut here. But I also see the devs point as they really cant babysit those that simply need a full time babysitter in order to not post stuff they shouldnt. A basic suspension followed by ban on second offense will deal with them but its like running an open pub server with no minorating or something. Its a never ending list of people wanting to be banned so its just a time waster for those that could be doing much more productive stuff.

 

The problem with RD concerns un-released work. To post a thread on RD you must have content to upload.

That means that there are very little ways of promoting a mod. A person has to scroll through a generic WIP thread to find news on a mod he/she cares about because if it is unreleased there is no central specific thread containing the progress of that mod. Which makes it very difficult for modders to build up a fanbase and makes it very difficult for consumers to keep up to date on the 3-5 mods they care about.