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Physics : is it the same for PS4 and PC ?

Discussion in 'PlayStation 4 Discussions' started by springday, Sep 10, 2016.

  1. springday

    springday Rookie

    This youtube video makes me wonder :


    I tried to reproduce the top speed at the 200m sign :


    With the stock setup, I can barely hit 302 km/h at the 200m sign, while the other guy hits 309 km/h
    With a modified setup and extreme values (min camber, tyres pressure at max, 5l fuel), I can reach 304 km/h.

    I did several laps and it's not a matter of tyres temperatures.

    So, is my PC wrong or is there a difference on PS4 physics ?
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2016

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  3. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    He doesnt shift at the same rpm as you. Maybe thats why?
     
  4. springday

    springday Rookie

    Right, he shifted to 4th too soon, which makes things even worse to understand the gap.
     
  5. Bibbles

    Bibbles Simracer

    I had a quick go on a friends pc and for me the physics did feel more grippy and the race I did was rèally enjoyable I really felt I could attack the track ( Silverstone) whereas on my ps4 i feel a kind of aquaplaning going on , I certainly didn't feel this on the pc version I played.

    I can now understand why pc players rave about Assetto Corsa more so console players if my experience is anything to go by.
     
  6. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    Its not only 4th gear. Are you sure that you change gear at the correct rpm and not him? I dont have the game installed atm so cant really check.
     
  7. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    PC and console is not on the same build, yet. If anything PC should be faster i think which is not the case with OP.

    edit: It might also be because he used optimum (100%) grip and its not that on console, i dont know.
     
  8. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    Looks like more speed is carried out of Parabolica to me...
     
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  9. Bibbles

    Bibbles Simracer

    Ah I didn't know you could do that 100% I tried the F40 and the Escort RS1600 and both cars felt fantastic , I also don't know what his difficult is set at either but the race I did was epic , I tried the same race when I got home on my ps4 and got my arse handed to me set òn easy but that might of been because I didn't have the same degree of control over my car.
     
  10. springday

    springday Rookie

    I just tried with shifting at lower rpm, and still 302 km/h at the sign.
    I am looking forward to other people testing (on PC and PS4)
     
  11. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    599 have different tire model on PC and consoles. I have got the impression that 10 should be faster though but I might be wrong.
     
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  12. Thomas Gocke

    Thomas Gocke Alien

    consoles will always be couple of weeks behind because of the slower patch release procedure
     
  13. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    Its rather months than weeks atm.
     
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  14. Jaye

    Jaye Alien

    Video1: 220km/h when left curb ends
    Video2: 215km/h when left curb ends

    Plus other tyre model and maybe other changes. Console is at what version? 1.5? 1.6? Maybe Video1 guy is also using some driving aids or drive with less TC or found a setup trick which helps him a lot at corner exit... So many possible factors.
     
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  15. BistoKid

    BistoKid Racer

    Prior to purchasing on PS4 I played on a friends PC version and fell in love with it after PCars on PS4. I do honestly feel that in general, the PC version was much more refined and I do feel a loss there somewhere but with limited play I could not say where.

    Still, early days, I love the game on PS4 and I am looking forward to the update which I hope will bring it closer to the current AC on PC.
     
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  16. Bibbles

    Bibbles Simracer

    The very first thing that I noticed was grip playing on the pc (although brief) I could really attack the track enter and exit corners so much faster and understeer is so balanced on pc.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2016
  17. springday

    springday Rookie

    I think you guys are right, it's not the same version of tyres.
    Because in a log I see I once was a lot faster with this car on this track (I made a lap in 1'45, but now I can hardly go under 1'48)
     
  18. henri

    henri Hardcore Simmer

    Factors like air temp affecting horsepower. Is that implemented for console version? RSR rank most of the top times got top speed of 308km/h (made in default "PRO" weather +26°).
     
  19. Jaye

    Jaye Alien

    No idea... For PC it was coming with v1.6 (in may). But I didn't read any exact info how far console versions are behind.

    RSR archived top time is 312km/h top speed.
     
  20. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Comparing 2 random peoples laps in settings that are unknown in both with different drivers. One may run a better line/setup and get more exit speed and as others have said possible temp variable, tyre compound etc. There are so many variables that can not be answered by the evidence provided.

    Jump into a server and watch 10 people at the same spot in the same build and same conditions. They will likely all have a few kmh between them at least so this shows nothing really. ;)

    Im not saying it proves that console and pc are exactly the same just as it doesnt prove they are different. It just proves nothing as it would need to be a test done by the same persin with identical conditions and the same line.

    Even lap to lap people will vary which is why nobody runs exactly the same laptime every lap. Im sure someone could do a better test with access to both versions.

    Its quite likely they wont be exactly the same with hardware variations, game performance etc but there is no reason kunos woukd do this on purpose as the physics code will be the same on both assuming versions are the same.
     
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  21. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    OP, first video is with TC ON idk on which level. If I'm not wrong (only if) when driving without TV you're automatically faster bcoz there's nothing that slowed you down on the exit corner whefe TC don't release full power on the exit of the corner.

    I drove yesterday that track with that car, did 45.6, and have identical speed to around 310 on that straight and I'm braking on the 200m as well.


    Pedal to the metal
     
  22. springday

    springday Rookie

    FYI, I used factory TC.
    (Edit : I just made a few runs with TC off, same speed at the sign)
    Iwanchek, are you on PC or PS4 ?
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2016

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