Project CARS 2

I knew that gameplay video from yorkie was just a "marketing kit" distributed to youtubers.
Four channels at least with the same gameplay, including yorkie's video posted above:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Abgefahren789/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/gamespot/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/P1GamingOfficial/videos

Even all the "details" yorkie read quickly over the 2min footage was a transcript from SMS, basically a press announcement he read quickly like a pharmaceutical warning on tv.

I was curious to find gameplay videos of pcars2, just like I do with other upcoming or newly released videos, for example the soon gtsport, but all I found was one channel with a different gameplay and pretty much everyone else with the same copy paste material doing some marketing work for SMS, at least in respect to rallycross.

Why do I have to do this, shouldn't PRC cover these marketing tactics from SMS? That's why I don't like at all when people from WMD, which paid to play and test the game before release, come to discussion boards with "trust&hype" messages.

Here's a new gameplay from rallycross played by a regular person and not world of mass distributed to look good.


This one also seems driven by a handling consultant and then distributed for promotion on youtube.

 

As much as marketing tactics may suck - and they generally do; at least these are not as bad as the ones calling my home and and interrupting my work daily trying to sell me crap I don't need, want or have the slightest interest in. With Pcars, I can sort through the hype, legit reviews, and honest opinions from users and make my decision or I can choose to ignore it. Compared to telemarketers, SMS marketing seems rather tame.

 

Ian Bell bought Austin with a new pc, race car and as far as i have understood he also get salary to test the game so he is pretty much an employee. Yorkie got hired by SMS so he is not a regular WMD guy.

 

VitualIR blogger is also SMS employee http://www.virtualr.net/project-cars-2-vs-gran-turismo-sport-first-comparison


PRC is also on some grease from SMS. Gosh.

The product sells itself.

 

Tyre model looks improved for sure. But yea, Ian bought the guy who runs PRC a WESCAR Late Model stockcar. I guess he will be too busy racing and won't have time to trash pCars2 when its released. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ haha !

Oh and an ad for Project Cars 2 is on the hood. So this was pure advertising dollars being spent, hahahahaha

https://pretendracecars.net/2017/03/21/introducing-the-2-slightly-mad-studios-chevrolet-ss/

 

You know what...if they manage to bring an experience like in TOCA Race Driver 2 (DTM Race Driver 2 in Germany) that would be top notch. From the videos I see so far, it might be headed in that direction. That game had car variety, a great career mode and decent enough physics to be more engaging than GT and the likes.

So if they get the handling and FFB to be not only better than in pCars 1 but also consistent across the cars, it could be a good game.
But I remain very sceptical, if I experience one specific behaviour from somebody I prefer to learn and expect the same the second time around.

Especially the interview with Bell put me off where he basically said that everything in pCars 2 is the best on the market or they're working on it and then it will be the best on the market. Those are smokescreen statements you wouldn't hear from AMS, AC, RF devs or Heads of Studio.

 

Just as I do when shopping for something on Amazon; I take the best opinion (of Ian, and the like), the worst (typical grudge / hater because . . .), and throw those away - disregard completely, they are obvious biased opinions - period. Take the overall average of the remaining reviews and that should give some idea as to the likely risk / success / value of the product.

We have players we know here and other forums that have similar taste and experience as our own; take the average of their game reviews (new title) and after the smoke clears and all the mirrors are put away or broken and base your decision on that. If the average is on the bubble, take the chance or don't. If it falls one way or the other, accept that and move on.

I don't expect Ian and company to change their marketing strategy much, it clearly worked well for them with Pc1. I also don't expect that satisfying a tiny group of serious as hell Sim-racers is at the top of their list of priorities. What I do expect is that over time and after release (and patches), a pattern will emerge that tells the real outcome - just as it did with Pc1. The rest of the fluff that goes with it is just varied levels of white noise.

 

Lol ok so you are expecting videos from who exactly apart from invited press, beta testers & SMS employees for a game that is not out yet for 6 months? They have a specific time frame in regards to releasing information about what cars & tracks are in the game. Its called a marketing strategy, a big title like SMS will have put a lot of resources in to planning this & they will have made specific conditions in the contracts with third parties.
I'm not sure where your criticism is aimed, are you expecting them to give you a go now & let you review it?

 

NSX GT3 gameplay, although its one of those **** gamepad with all assists on gameplay but still nice to see this car in any game.
5:41

 

Can someone tell me if the Jack Spade FFB files also work in the Pagani Edition?

 

I can't answer this, but I can tell you you're OT, unless the Pagani Edition is out for pCars2 too

 

I started delving into my WMD membership last month, getting to know PCARS 2 as I was playing and enjoying AC for the whole of 2016. I know many of you are skeptic about PCARS due to the first title having 'issues' (to put it mildly). But just so you know that since I started with PCARS 2 I haven't touched AC anymore for more than a month.

SMS has really improved on every aspect of PCARS 1. FFB has been optimized and simplified, physics have improved across the board, absolutely gorgeous day/ night transitions dependent on the seasons. Wet weather racing and rallycross that feel realistic and satisfying too...

We are now in the run up to the release this year normally, but rest assured that SMS have upped their game and Kunos has some competition on their hands here .

 

Thanks for the update. What car class needs the most work atm as I assume some need more work than others? Also how is the ai coming along?

 

It's all WIP and all of them are getting updated, but I've tried many classes already and I couldn't find any that felt odd. They did a great job with the new tyre model so far. FFB feels very good indeed and this across the board.

 

I'll wait for a demo or something, absolutely hated the FFB/physics of #1

 

Very encouraging comments, thank you for sharing, definitely looking forward to a demo to test those progress.

 

HAHA thats because you were actually driving NFS Shift 3. Same physic engine in pCars is from the NFS Shift series. I hope SMS brought their A game this time

 

I dont think they will release a demo. You can always buy the game and if you feel like its terrible and undriveable you can use steam refund.

what @mister dog write is very nice to read.

 

If they want people who actually tried PC1 to even consider PC2 they should really release a demo like the Zonda version, if it plays well I'll buy it ofc.

 

I'm so not taking the bait, even though all comments by insiders are appreciated.
A steam refund is possible within 2 hours, no? It's not enough if you consider how the Lotus 49 for instance drives ok in pCars 1 but then a Focus RS behaves very weirdly. I have no doubt that there will be some shiny examples of handling and physics but I doubt it will be consistent.

No hating but the way AC keeps getting better and better I have very little motivation to look further. It lacks here and there but stuff gets added and what's there is very high quality across the board.

I look forward to the reviews on pCars 2 written by people I trust in here.