Streetfight [MR] servers

From @Gunja's post: "Also you have to remember that racing on our servers is racing in really tough competition... AB, extensive blacklist and smoking fast regulars will make anyone (from earth) sweat for top 5."

Very, very true. I looked at Middleweight lap times today...Nurb GP/GT...did some off line laps in Lotus Exige V6 Cup and then the Evora Carbon (a la Schnipp) and I could get to within 3 seconds of the fast guys doing my best. When the gap is that big, I work on my game vs going to race on the server. When I get to sub 2 second gap, then I will give it a go on the pub servers. These particular cars are hard to drive fast. Carrying speed, precision in braking and turning points are so hard to master, I find. Going fast in the 'street' cars is a very advanced skillset. That I don't have....yet!!! Take a break and rethink it @Ricky Reject. Lots of us just like you out there and we can have a blast racing mid pack or even back of pack! Cheers, mate.

 

i know the feeling exactly. at one point i was convinced that everyone knew some tricks they didn't tell me, then i was convinced that my computer setup might prohibit me from getting better times, but in the end i realized that i was just not good enough. also that the SF community core is made up of a crazy bunch of insanely fast and dedicated racers.... frustrating!

the positive thing about having such fast crazyheads is that you can learn from them, i noticed, every time, that when i focus and follow someone good on track, i will constantly gain speed and get better laptimes, which is very satisfactory and enjoyable. but then on other occasions losing against different people who subjectively drive much worse than me (when i see them crash and bump others etc, but still get faster laptimes than me) it is so frustrating that i have to take a break from AC altogether. just do yourself a favor and don't install it take a break, you might want to try again and have fun racing again!

 

you're welcome guys, everyones welcome! just some slow old japanese cars to race around short-ish tracks. i am really glad that there are other people who do enjoy this combination.

i started with AB but as Gunja suggested i changed it to ABC to help with filling up the grid, getting the traffic up. i still haven't made a dedicated topic for the server here or on the ACSF website, lazy lazy me, but eventually i will. haven't had much time/motivation in the last couple of days to race myself.

 

@Ricky Reject
Iirc you drove the 240R S3 and RX7 yesterday.
The small Exige is rather a car to challenge yourself as it's one of the slower cars in the group.
The RX7 Tuned is 'weird', I always need to do several races to get comfortable and fast in it as you don't really feel the limit of the car and it already has some difficult moments if you aren't at the limit paired with a narrow power band of the engine. It can be fast, but difficult to get there.
I'd say the R8 and Panamera are competitive and easy to drive, the SLS too if you have good throttle control and be patient with it.

To some extend this also is the case for @deci, most of the times you said you are too slow you also used either (one of) the slowest cars of the group or one that can be fast, but is difficult to be fast in it.
It's ok if you have fun, but you could be more competitive by picking other cars.


@Tofuweight:
I would have joined as well yesterday, Highlands Short basicly screams for trouble and mass incidents, partly because it is so tight and the view is restricted, but also because it's so damn hard to overtake which leads to risky racing.

 

Had some great racing the other day at Brands Hatch. Thanks for the server.

 

Pretty new to online racing so i probably have some deficits in awareness but i try to avoid the other cars as best as i can.

Yesterday i tried Tofuweight for the first time and i'm not sure if i was able to finish a single race, a lot of drivers tried to overtake at places where it is physically impossible to do without hitting the car in front.
Sure, i'm slower but do i have to give way to a faster car that spun out and now is back on it's way to the top of the grid if he can't overtake safely?

 

if you race for position (you are not being shown blue flags to let lapping cars pass you), you should not give way but just try to keep your race clean and defend your position fairly - but especially on a track like highlands short it can be really hard to get a clean race especially with people who think they should overtake at exactly the wrong spots...not enough space... personally when i notice that i am slower than a guy behind me, i will try to give him an opportunity to overtake at a location where it does not cost me too much time and is safe for BOTH of us, but at highlands short this is almost impossible...

...i guess it was a bad idea to put it up, changed to vallelunga club for today, that should be a bit better.

 

No you should't. The problem with some of the very fast people is that they refuse to take any line other than ideal. If you happen to be on that line when they come, they will rather risk crashing you than adopting a second (slower) line. "You were braking too early" is what they will most likely say or "you should have left me more room". Well... it's kind of hard to change the line in the middle of the corner to give room to a divebomber.

 

@touchdown42
If you are on the same lap there is no obligation.
But what you discribe is the reason I don't race Highlands Short online any more.

On SMW yesterday I didn't see you do anything wrong, you even were pretty cautious. I remember where I had a big moment, either spun or almost did so, where you could have easily overtaken me but slowed down. I guess you weren't sure where I might end up.

Just by that I could see you are clean racer.

 

Highlands Short, although a blast to drive, is terrible for racing.

 

I know what you mean, but you need to specify that a bit.

There are very fast drivers that race very clean, like Mathieu Labbé, Tibalotte, Gunja and so many others, but there are also fast drivers that are quite ruthless if they have a slower car ahead of them.
I could list names, but I think it's better to not do it.

 

Thx,
i hit a guy called Mogget last weekend and apparently ruined his race , so i'm perhaps extra cautious ATM.

 

From what I hear, everybody hits Mogget, he's probably used to it by now.

 

No hard feelings, mate. You just need to err on the side of caution when you can't see the car alongside you It sounds like you have taken what happened that day into consideration, and adjusted your driving accordingly. That instantly rates you above 90% of the public server "clientele", so I look forward to racing you again in the near future

 

1.14.2
- Tweaked MP leaderboard adding grey font for disconnected players

I think Stefano was spying on our discussion

 

Yes, but a few of us SF racers and also other guys mentioned that one in the 1.14 update thread.

 

All servers have working MR again.

Looked a bit like the wild west earlier.

 

@deci: what about tofuweight at Monaco?
Would be fun as anticipation of F1 gp.

Monaco v1.1 OSRW version is decent.
Others are basically terrible.

 

That Toyota AE86 is a strange car. There are times when I change down during braking for a corner when it almost feels like there is a significant delay until the gear engages. It makes a right mess of my cornering if I am not careful.

 

The server at Tsukuba is fun but needs faster cars; the Miata and GT86 are kinda boring IMO. (Mustang and BMW 1M or E92 M3 would be my choice)