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The steering, grip front tires, terible?

Discussion in 'Steering wheels discussions' started by Zenon, Jan 6, 2017.

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  1. Well, for sure but I see his point. It doesnt make sense of course numbers-wise, but what if the engine doesnt translate the data properly ? Or some other reason causing ill-handling. At the end of the day, it's pretty hard to quantify how a tyre works at and over the limit (or at all really).
     
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  2. sure.. primitive men stared at the moon clueless... it's pretty obvious that you and your new friend feel that way and "tend to agree" really, I would be surprised if the opposite happened.
    Info, books and whatnot are out there.. want to make an effort? Fine.. don't want to make an effort? Fine too.. just don't expect to look that smart while you bark at the moon.

    One thing he said right tho.. this is all a colossal waste of time and I am out of here.. for real this time.
     
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  3. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Back these claims up.
     
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  4. Shakotan

    Shakotan Racer

    Once again, you are accusing me of something I didn't say or do. I did not propose a solution. I presented and observation, and a test that illustrates these observations. The values I suggested are not random. They are simply a way to take that one parameter out of the equation. It's logical and normal troubleshooting. Not random. And not a solution. Jeez.
     
  5. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    I can see this new solution may be many-sided, but can it copy&paste as well?
     
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  6. Really? :cool:
     
  7. AshNismo

    AshNismo Racer

    For us non-engineering noobs trying to understand and learn about what you guys are talking about, could you please @Lord Kunos explain what the LS_EXPY and LS_EXPX values actually simulate? A lot of confusion as to what they actually are

    Thank you :)
     
  8. They simply change the shape of the lateral (or longitudinal) friction curve vs load.

    Basically, how much lateral/longitudinal grip you have at a given load.
     
  9. AshNismo

    AshNismo Racer

    Thanks David for the clarification, so I translate that as the contact patch of the tyre dependent on the load from the vehicle. Am I correct in assuming the the median value would be 1.0?
     
  10. No, like Stefano said, if 1 is used, the curve is literally flat, meaning that you have the same friction coefficient at every load possible.
     
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  11. As I said, doesn't matter one bit if it doesn't translate in the game properly. Now the "issue" might not be exactly related to this, but the way the cars drive lack progression. I mean, just go drive the street 458... That one is so bad it's mind-boggling.

    Maybe you ought to make an effort driving the cars, maybe you'd figure it out better.
     
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  12. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    458 is on V7 tyres IIRC.
    If that's the case, why don't you wait for Aristotelis to complete the transition?

    What about 488? It's on V10 right?

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  13. Don't have the Triple Pack... So no idea.
     
  14. kraM1t

    kraM1t Racer

  15. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    Also you need to define what "sloppy" is.

    Reporting a car as that, has the same (zero) value as saying that “God does not play dice", in quantum mechanics lesson...

    Actually if I were you, I would keep myself away of such posts , as they make you sound ridiculous...

    "Sloppy" car...lol

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  16. Shakotan

    Shakotan Racer

    Just to be clear, I was unaware that this had made it to reddit. I posted it on my Facebook. Not for clicks, but to show my friends how Stefano treated me. No matter how wrong I may be, nothing can justify an official spokesperson from any company behaving like this. That is why this is getting attention. I'm not the dick here, Stefano is. I don't mind being told I am wrong. I probably am. However, I do mind when grown men call me names for no reason. He will only get what he asked for. Nothing more, nothing less. I even got his written permission to publish the messages. He made his choice.
     
  17. tabis

    tabis Simracer

    I want Aris back :(
     
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  18. Lol, he's probably neck deep in V10 tyres atm! That C, V and CTRL button are surely worn down to the actuator by now :p
     
  19. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    I can't really blame him.
    You are not the victim here.

    A person studies all his life, programming countless hours and as a result we enjoy one of the best sims out there.

    People are happy, waiting for the next DLC to show their gratitude and support, saying that recent changes with V10 tyres are amazing and yet all this work is forgotten by few ( thank the god of sims ) by a guy and his feels...and trying random numbers...

    All this situation is really ridiculous, showing zero respect for devs...

    Actually it's so ridiculous that I unsubscribed from your channel.

    Jesus...

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  20. Shakotan

    Shakotan Racer

    That's the thing. You assume I am hating on AC, even though I repeatedly have made it clear that I have huge respect for the sim and the work they have put into it. At no point did I ever disrespect anyone. I don't even know where that is coming from. I have tried my best here to stay on topic and not sink to the level of name calling and swearing, unlike Stefano. Who really is disrespecting who here?
     
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