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Ultimate monitor setup for AC

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by DPRdave, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie

    I have a GeForce gtx 1080 graphics card and am looking for the ultimate triple screen setup whilst using AC for mainly hot lapping.

    I am thinking:

    3x 27”
    Bezel less monitors (or virtually bezel less)
    G-Sync ready?
    1/2 msec response

    Can anyone Provide some advice as to what current technology would provide the ultimate setup?
     

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  3. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    And you've ruled out VR?
    Just saying, that if only for hotlapping, you can crank the settings pretty high, superscaling too though still maintaining 90fps, depending on your cpu. If you haven't tried AC in VR at that level, you haven't tried it fo' real :)
    For me, as an ex-triplescreen user, it's by far the best thing I've done in terms of getting as "real" trackday experience as possible, next to getting better FFB hardware. For hotlapping, you'd appreciate the depth, 1:1 size and just plain immersion. You'll learn the track at a new level, even though you've lapped it hundreds of times on monitor(s).
     
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  4. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie

    I have tried VR, for me the main problem is motion sickness so unfortunately rules this out.

    And it won’t just be me using the system so others may experience the same thing.
     
  5. bromstarzan

    bromstarzan Hardcore Simmer

    As for VR, did you just try a couple of times or did you try to train your brain giving it at least 10-20 racing hours?
    I felt a bit dizzy at first but after 10h it was totally gone and now it feels natural. But I know, for some people it does not work, naturally.

    Cant help you on your tripples, should be plenty of folks around here that can.
     
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  6. Torcano

    Torcano Alien

    What is your budget though. You say "ultimate" but a good 1440p GSync 27 inch IPS monitor will chew a hole through your pocket, much less three.

    Honestly, if your main hobby is simulators then the ultimate sim racing triples rig would be three 21:9 form factor 34 inch monitors with a high 120-144Hz refresh rate. Plus a 1080 can easily drive three 2560x1080 res monitors all day at 100+ Hz refresh rates.

    Like for example these monitors -

    LG34UC79G-B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LW5CGIS/ref=psdc_1292115011_t2_B0765CXH2Z at 699$ a piece (without discounts, 599 with discount) are fairly expensive.

    or

    Viotek GN35LD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0765CXH2Z/ref=psdc_1292115011_t1_B01LW5CGIS?th=1 at 499$ if you want a similar option at a budget price

    But if you really just want three conventional 27 inch 16:9 form factor monitors, you could just get either the new ASUS ROG Swift or Acer Predator, both are 1440p monitors with G-Sync. Can't go wrong with either of those as they are probably the best 16:9 monitors on the market right now. They run at 165Hz for the ASUS and 144Hz for the Acer I think. The non IPS variants of these two monitors cost the same as the 21:9 monitors linked above, but the IPS panel variants will be around the 799$ mark.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2017
  7. _Fulgore_

    _Fulgore_ Racer

    Hi Dave,

    this is just a personal thought, but since months i upgraded to triples ; 3X asus mg279q 27 inch , after setting up it up correctly, laptimes are getting better and more immersive whilst racing others; still not 100% sure if all is correct but when your racing next to another driver still not easy to see where he is, but you can fight (race) much better overall, depending on the car and fov, my current setup is distance to middle screen about 70 cm and screen angle 48 degrees, also im wearing glasses so i adjust always with the seat the position of the car so i see enough off the track and sideways so i if everything in my sight while racing
    so if the budget is big enough i while even say go bigger than 27 inch to see even more information
    no matter what but you will love it and also coming home and seeing your tripple setup your here it screaming to play with it :p
    daily use also improved while using it for work or other games

    hardware related : strong cpu to feed your 1080 gtx , i got an old cpu i7 3770 clocked to 4.1 ghz and a gtx 1070 : most settings on maxed and even refelection rendering on 3 cubes , this setting was for me the msot important has the moment you set this up , the cars don't look "cartoony" anymore
    but i limited my game to half adaptive sync so i run the gun at a stable 72 fps, with ai im limited to race against 10 opponents, online i can race in servers with 24 players with a stable 72 fps
    hotlapping and training : my gtx is running all the time at 99% and cpu about 30% : without sync i got about 95 frames but than i notice a little tearing and all is not smooth enough
    driving against 10 ai : gtx running at 99% and cpu goes up to 90% but still 95 fps but dropping all the time
    online 24 players : gtx running at 99% and cpu 75% but also fps drops from 95 to lower

    but thats due my hardware ; looking into a I7 8700K to feed the gtx 1070 and while have a better performance overall : but the prices for the cpu and ram are at the moment to high here in Belgium; so im watching it out when the prices are better...

    overall the upgrade to triples is awesome :)

    Regards
     
  8. Torcano

    Torcano Alien

    @_Fulgore_ Yours are great 27 inch monitors but they are ~600$ (correct me if I'm mistaken), at that price range since we are gonna be skipping G-Sync anyway so personally I'd rather just go with three 500$ 35 inch Vioteks and save some money plus get a ton more screen space, plus given that 2560x1080 is a bit easier to run than your 2560x1440, more framerates too as a bonus. :D
     
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  9. Horus

    Horus Alien

    Sometime in the future I would like to have two more 21:9 monitors, they would look spectacular. Once you try a 21:9 you kind of don't want to go back to those little 16:9 screens. Whatever you buy you will love the view. A Happy and fruitful New Year to you and yours.
     
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  10. _Fulgore_

    _Fulgore_ Racer

    yes your correct at the price and acutally all the fault off Assetto :D that i upgraded to 3 monitors , i bought a year ago just 1 monitor, has the mine was broken, but started to play more and more Assetto and they didn't sell the monitors anymore, and i wanted the 3 same monitors, has i read many issues with different monitors in setup, colors and all the rest... so ended up to buy fast the last 2 monitors they had in stock :D...normally that money was for the new pc upgrade ...but ended all well cause in the summer i had than normally a quad core 7700K and can now go for a 6 core, me like =D

    and that will be cool triple 35 inch monitors :D
     
  11. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    $1500 for monitors when a rift can be had for what, $400 or so? Sure you don’t want to try adapting to it? Does take a good few hours (I’d say 20 is about right)
     
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  12. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie


    Many thanks for the detailed reply. I do like the look of the 21:9's. A couple of questions - will 3x 21:9 form monitors work well with AC? Also G-Sync, it this worth focusing on, not entirely sure what this means. Obviously the video card I have supports it.

    Curved - how well does this work with AC vs flat?

    The monitors will be placed around 34-36 in away from me.


    Cheers
    David
     
  13. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie

    Yep I haven’t done enough hrs with the rift to be fair, so I may keep trying...
     
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  14. Torcano

    Torcano Alien

    Yes, triple 21:9s will work just fine with AC with no issues. G-Sync is an NVIDIA proprietary tech thingy that allows the monitor to vary its refresh rate to stay in sync with the frames that the GPU is outputting at any given moment, by doing so it eliminates screen tearing and visibly smooths out any jittery-ness caused by uneven framerates. It is a good piece of kit but to me it is not worth the 100-150$ price premium over a non G-Sync monitor in the current market, but some people swear by it. I personally wouldn't bother, unless you got loads of cash to chuck around.

    The only thing to me that really matters is the panel type, IPS or TN. IPS (In-Plane Switching) is, in a general sense, the better color reproducing panel offering better viewing angles but lacks high refresh rates and low response times. A TN (Twisted Nematic) offers much higher refresh rates and lower response times, but sub-par color quality and even worse viewing angles. If it were a couple years ago you'd have to choose between one or the other based on what you prefer - accurate colors or fast response times, but nowadays IPS panels are basically TN panels on steroids because they are just as responsive as TN ones. That's why IPS monitors are generally a bit more expensive than their TN counterparts, but the price difference here to me is worth it simply for the more accurate color reproduction. I currently run an IPS 4k panel as my main monitor with a TN 1440p as my secondary and the TN's colors look beyond garbage when sitting right next to the IPS one even after I calibrated both of them to be as accurate as they can possibly be. :)
     
  15. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie

    Many thanks - great info!

    I'm looking through some options now. What minimum refresh and response rate would be suitable? and also what would you put as a higher priority of importance?

    Cheers,
    David.
     
  16. Torcano

    Torcano Alien

    Minimum refresh rates for high refresh rates monitors nowadays starts usually at 100 Hz, so anything from and beyond 100 (that'd be 120 Hz, 144 Hz etc.) is going to be miles better than the bog standard 60. Also manufacturers tend to mislead you by giving the monitor's response time numbers instead of input lag. Input lag numbers are the actual important bits that they for some reason try to hide from the consumer. Response time numbers have nothing to do with input lag, but with how quickly the screen's pixels can change colors. It determines the amount of blurriness and ghosting/smearing of the image when in motion. For example, in the LG monitor that I linked in my first post, the manufacturer says the response time is 1 milli second but the all important input latency is ~28 ms which is published no where. 28 ms is great for an IPS panel running at such a high refresh rate, but an uninformed person might think that 1 ms is the actual input latency. In reality, there are no monitors (as far as I know of) that have 1 ms input latency, even old school CRT monitors which are instantaneous have a bit of a lag to them, even the best LCDs have around 10-20 ms of input latency.

    That said, as much as I hate "gaming" branded stuff, most "gaming" oriented monitors tend to be pretty solid when it comes to input lag and response times, so it is generally not something you even have to really give much thought to before a purchase these days. Any good high refresh rate monitor will usually have a good input lag and response time accompanying it anyway. :)

    Just for your future reference, I'll leave this link for a website with input lag numbers since manufacturers would rather you not know these numbers -

    https://displaylag.com/display-database/
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
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  17. RReed43

    RReed43 Hardcore Simmer

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  18. DPRdave

    DPRdave Rookie

    Ok- So ideally I would like to find a 32” as three at the correct angles will fit the room nicely but I can’t find any good spec 32” with g sync. So may have to go with:

    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch WQHD Gaming Monitor (2560 x 1440, IPS, up to 165 Hz, DP, HDMI, USB 3.0, G-Sync) - Black

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B017EVR2VM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_n.msAb8VAW5Y0

    What do you think? Lag looks good etc.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
  19. Torcano

    Torcano Alien

    Yup, those are pretty much the best 27 inch monitors around. If you have the cash for 3 of them then by all means, you won't go wrong with them.
     

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