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Vote for the way ff user levels are handled now!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by stefanoCasillo, Sep 20, 2015.

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Force feedback adjustment

Poll closed Sep 25, 2015.

  1. Leave it as it is

    104 vote(s)
    22.3%

  2. Keyboard control with automatic save

    362 vote(s)
    77.7%
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  1. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    The new proposed system will have FF adjusted "on the fly" with keyboard and automatically saved and reloaded PER CAR.
    Currently the system uses setups instead, requiring the user to go load a setup to get the required FF gain for a car.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Sep 20, 2015
    #1
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  2. jasjeet

    jasjeet Racer

    What are the disadvantages?
     
    jasjeet, Sep 20, 2015
    #2
    Mogster likes this.
  3. Nao

    Nao Alien

    (3) Leave as it is but with keyboard shortcut is my answer.

    ps: it is already possible to change ffb on the fly with console command but it's too clunky, why not connect the keys to ffMult and call it a day :D

    EDIT: or at least give us "UP" / "DOWN" and "DEFAULT" hotkeys, then per car value would be good.

    edit2: also please make it LFS style , in 5% increments if you can :)
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2015
    Nao, Sep 20, 2015
    #3
  4. Snjper

    Snjper Hardcore Simmer

    More options is always good and being able to turn via button (knob) is great.. also can't really see a disadvantage or cheat effect..
     
    Snjper, Sep 20, 2015
    #4
  5. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    ive never adjusted each cars ffb per track only per car, so as long as it remembers each cars setting individually it is fine by me.
     
    Andy-R, Sep 20, 2015
    #5
    Darren Blythe, Cefa and Jebus like this.
  6. Psit

    Psit Alien

    I prefer the new system with the keyboard shortcuts.
    Why dont you code customizable shortcuts for everything while at it... :eek:
     
    Psit, Sep 20, 2015
    #6
    LTC Mike (40plus), Leemstradamus and garyjpaterson like this.
  7. Punknoodle

    Punknoodle Racer

    New proposed system! It should be saved per car and not in a set up, but you should still be able to see what it is set to from the setup page.

    Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk
     
    Punknoodle, Sep 20, 2015
    #7
    LTC Mike (40plus) and ACgt1 like this.
  8. DaVeX↯

    DaVeX↯ Hardcore Simmer

    "Currently the system uses setups instead, requiring the user to go load a setup to get the required FF gain for a car."

    I don't know how pros are used too but I will prefer the new "on the fly system". There is a simple reason for this, I can have a fixed ffb level every time I load a setup, no matter if mine or sent by a friend. No need to worry to check it every time I am testing a new setup, I will have the car with the ffb I like once for all.
    Would be perfect if change would be based both on car and track combo but I think will be difficult to have this option too.
     
    DaVeX↯, Sep 20, 2015
    #8
    7TeeNein, Leemstradamus and YardStick like this.
  9. Punknoodle

    Punknoodle Racer

    Not to mention those who don't use set ups, it means you can just enter a session and drive straight away with the correct FFB. And if all you were ever changing was the FFB you either had to save a set up, or remember what to set it to per car.

    Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk
     
    Punknoodle, Sep 20, 2015
    #9
  10. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Even though you should adjust the FFB per car AND TRACK if you want to get the strongest FFB without clipping, because it varies from track to track (and this what I do), I suppose it is more ”correct” to set the gain per car, as per each car's handling characteristics. You'd have to set the gain per car to the level that doesn't clip at any track - I.e. the lowest common denominator. It would certainly be more convenient. I voted for the save per car.

    But I hope it will be easy to see what the current FFB is for a given car, because that's an important input to Atle Dreier's FFB clipping app, which is crucial to get the best feel from the FFB.
     
    WallyM, Sep 20, 2015
    #10
  11. NightEye

    NightEye Alien

    I would prefer FFB levels to be per car. Makes much more sense.
    But perhaps it's possible to have a multiplier for the car setting in the setup, so anyone can still have it dependant on setups? No idea if people actually set it per setup, though.
     
    NightEye, Sep 20, 2015
    #11
  12. nonnex

    nonnex Alien

    Coming from OO Programming I would say FFB is not really part of a "Racing SETUP class" per definition;)
    So I like the quick keyboard save per CAR solution.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2015
    nonnex, Sep 20, 2015
    #12
    7TeeNein, P Gora, Mr Nice and 1 other person like this.
  13. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    So long as it doesn't affect the universal setting that I have at the moment, I couldn't care less :p
     
    Christopher Low, Sep 20, 2015
    #13
  14. Sebastian Wolff

    Sebastian Wolff Racer

    I think it is a really great idea since you can change the ffb on the fly while driving and really observe the changes in the force for your wheel. I imagine it is easy with that method to optimize ffb strength per car (and mood!).
    And Auto save really makes sense imo! Good idea Stefano ;)
     
    Sebastian Wolff, Sep 20, 2015
    #14
    Mr Nice likes this.
  15. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    I don't understand the proposed change.

    If we have keyboard shortcuts then will the controls config menu screen disappear? I'd like to be able to save FFB on a per car basis and have it load automatically but keep the config screen page. Why do we need in game adjustment?
     
    Mogster, Sep 20, 2015
    #15
  16. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    The only thing that would go away would be the FFB slider in the setup menu. You would still set your overall FFB level in the main options menu and if you wanted to tweak ffb per car you could do it while driving in a session and the game will save your setting and apply it everytime you drive that car.
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Sep 20, 2015
    #16
    Leemstradamus and Mogster like this.
  17. Michele Papis

    Michele Papis Alien

    I quote the new solution, because ffb is more related to car model instead of its setup. With some cars I have to decrease value or increase it, and save into a setup. Good to have hotkeys to raise value, keep up with new solution for me ;)
     
    Michele Papis, Sep 20, 2015
    #17
    Mr Nice and nonnex like this.
  18. JackCY

    JackCY Racer

    What about both? Have it per car but also allow adjustment per setup for those times when you want it. Allow the user to bind what ever adjustment they want to the input (key, button, ...).
    Per setup is nice but not the most practical, per car is more practical but less fine grained.

    If only one, then I would choose per car and hotkeys <> (,.).
     
    JackCY, Sep 20, 2015
    #18
  19. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    If there's some sort of GUI to show what level I'm setting then that sounds like a step forward. I really want to see visually what level is set.
     
    Mogster, Sep 20, 2015
    #19
  20. lpmlol

    lpmlol Gamer

    Keyboard control with automatic save
    for me, and thank you for the excellent work, Greetings!
    Pd:sorry for my misunderstanding use google translate English
     
    lpmlol, Sep 20, 2015
    #20
    donShere and Mr Nice like this.
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