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Generic Weekly Hotlap #36 - Sport Evolution

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Graveltrap, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. boabmatic

    boabmatic Hardcore Simmer

    Its hot in "England" currently... its thunderstorms in Scotland at the moment.
    But at least I'm flying out to Baku for the F1 tomorrow ;)
     
  2. BrainsBush

    BrainsBush Hardcore Simmer

    Have fun!! Curious if the wider F1 cars fit through the very small curve around the 'castle' :)
     
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  3. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    Wednesday, Hot, hot, hot...Apart from Scotland which really isn't a surprise ;)

    A much busier track today, plenty of new entries and a few improvements as well :) 20 drivers have now set a time.

    Current Standings
    1. 1:46.218 - Graveltrap - PS4
    2. 1:46.288 - svenvangent - PS4
    3. 1:46.581 - cmch15 - PS4
    4. 1:46.941 - Fab85 - PC
    5. 1:47.115 - Julian2711 - PS4
    6. 1:47.189 - BrainsBush - PS4
    7. 1:47.803 - DonZmeuheu - PS4
    8. 1:48.560 - Laughing Gravy - PS4
    9. 1:48.646 - Boabmatic - PC
    10. 1:48.858 - moodyryder - PS4
    11. 1:48.860 - sissydriver - PC
    12. 1:49.137 - Capirossi - X1
    13. 1:49.275 - Lewisxbone - X1
    14. 1:49.583 - Bobby Situkangpoles - PS4
    15. 1:49.694 - 365gt - PS4
    16. 1:50.390 - Glitterchebs - X1
    17. 1:50.888 - Justray2000 - PC
    18. 1:51.504 - paul_wev - PC
    19. 1:52.265 - Plastic_Manc - PC
    20. 1:55.461 - flyingcarrot - X1
    Car suggestions for next week please....There are some good ones from the last couple of threads which do have my attention, but fresh thoughts are always good!
     
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  4. BrainsBush

    BrainsBush Hardcore Simmer

    1:46:454 - BrainsBush - PS4 (improvement!!)

    Yes finally a 1:46 and a good one too. Kept all settings the same as before only changed form white to red painting.
    I will not share to much details but my Playseat and my back are soaking wet because of this tropical weather. And that sweat on my back has to go somewhere.....try not to visualise please :p

    Assetto Corsa_13.jpg
     
  5. 1:49.674
    PS4 G29
    upload_2017-6-21_23-8-57.png
    Playseat becomes too slippery after 7 laps... you don't really want to know that.
    For this quick outing my tyre pressures were way too low. Having seen GravelTrap's advice, I must be able to find 4 secs, so standby for a 1:45
     
  6. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

  7. StyleF1re

    StyleF1re Hardcore Simmer

    1:48.237 / PS4 (H-Shifter)

    Assetto Corsa_3.jpg

    Having seen @BrainsBush 's latest improvement I'm going to need one as well - into the 1:47s at least! Not a fan of how this car can be so slippery through turns, but it is what it is. Must be a fun car to drive in the real world...

    Not to mention, it really doesn't seem like that long ago since we were all pushing the tuned AE86 around this same circuit...
     
  8. cmch15

    cmch15 Gamer

    Bought the season pass on offer the other day and had a play in a few cars. Porsche 917 was fun

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Alpinefd

    Alpinefd Racer

    [​IMG]

    1:48 860
    Pc
    No assist

    Need a delicate hand for this one


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  10. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    Thursday evening means toy car racing, the update may be late tonight or not happen at all! o_O
     
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  11. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    I have been doing a bit of thinking about this my self and I have come up with some interesting info about all this.

    First, here's an interesting video where he compares an h shifted car vs paddle shift car to see which is fastest. He is using the h shifter in the h shifter and paddles on the paddle shifter car.


    Now, I would like to see @Viperconcept_ drive both these cars again but driving the h pattern car with paddle shifters, and the paddle shifter car with the h pattern. I think the results would be interesting based on this quote I found in a steam community thread;



    Here is a couple thing Aris said in the official forum

    "Hi, indeed you can't have autoblip and autoclutch with an H-Shifter enabled. You need to either learn to change gear properly, or use the clutch, or use the paddles

    There are multiple reasons behind this but I'll state just the most obvious. While driving with paddles the program depending on what button is pressed, can understand perfectly what next gear to put and can calculate accordingly how much clutch to press and if a blip or cut is required. When driving with a H-Shifter there is no way the program can predict what gear you're going to put once you've got out of a gear. For example, you could do a 4th-3rd, a 4th-2nd, a 4th-1st, a 4th-5th, or a 4th-6th... all very valid choices. To make the assist work, it would be needed to wait until you've selected your final gear, and then start all the gearchange operation, so press clutch, blip or cut the necessary amount of time, insert gear, release clutch.

    We did some try outs and the driving experience was terrible, not to mention the complexity and bugs it created, so we simply abandoned it, because in the end it is also a bad habbit. Don't like H-Shifters? You can use assists and paddles (being a bit slower). Like H-Shifters? Learn to drive them

    Sorry, no way around it. "

    "If you use paddles on an H-shift manual car, the gearchange is slower than what you could achieved with a totally manual H-Shifter.

    If you use autoclutch and blip on a car with a sequential box like the Z4 GT3, the clutch engages just a tiny bit slower than without the assists. "

    Then some interesting stuff on proposed clutch damage coming later.

    "We have explained this before, but I'll explain it again as probably it is somewhere hidden in the older posts.

    If you want to be real fast with gearchange, you need to touch the clutch to make a successful change. You can do without, but it is a tiny bit slower gearchange. Also, the faster you try to change, the more you risk to hear the grinding noise of gears. You might even make it but you hear the noise.

    Now, when mechanical damage will be enabled, the more grinding noises you hear, the more the "accepted rpm range for gear change" will get narrower. Let me make an example to make this easier to understand.
    Right now a specific car might be able to accept a gear in a 1000rpm range. So say that the gear should enter at 4500rpm. You will be succesful if you rev match at 4000 to 5000rpm.
    Now, everytime you revmatch badly and hear the noise, this range will get narrower. So 800,700,500 and so on until you will arrive at a point that you will need to press the clutch totally to change a gear and even at that point it might get risky and the gearbox might not accept a different gear. So you might need to let a single gear in and finish a race with that.

    So why didn't we opted right away for a more severe simulation? Simply put, there is no specific hardware that simulates an actual gear lever connected to a gearbox (force feedback shifter), nor a properly clutch in consumer pedal sets, and most importantly gearchanging has a lot to do with feel and g forces too. All of those features are heavily lacking in sims. So a very severe simulation would be simply frustrating. We think our system works very good, and "teaches" the player to properly use a clutch in order to be safer and faster. The more risks you get, the more it punishes you, until it breaks down. "


    Sorry for the wall of text but I thought it was all quite cool.
    In this end, it might be worthwhile for people to put what type of shifter they're using in the post with their time. It might not have to be mandatory like posting what type of equipment a person is using (t500, t3pa pedals) but most people do it anyways.
    Lmk what you all think.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2017
  12. Justray2000

    Justray2000 Hardcore Simmer

    Improvement 1:49:932 - PC
    [​IMG]
    Under 1:50 now I'm happy even if it is only just.


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  13. BrainsBush

    BrainsBush Hardcore Simmer

    Great info!! And you know what @Aristotelis absolutely hates: DRY SHIFTING!!! Do not even try to think about it ;)

    I always choose the gear method of the car as how it is in 'real life'. And my preference are the cars with H shifter.
     
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  14. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    Thanks for this info, very interesting,
     
  15. AndyB16

    AndyB16 Simracer

    1:50.280 PC
    TX, T3PA PRO, TH8A, Oculus[​IMG]

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  16. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    Thursday, Stick shifter...

    25 drivers have now set a time, small amount of podium action as BrainsBush moves up to third! The late 48's have 3 drivers within 2 thousands of a second of each other :eek:

    Current Standings
    1. 1:46.218 - Graveltrap - PS4
    2. 1:46.288 - svenvangent - PS4
    3. 1:46.454 - BrainsBush - PS4
    4. 1:46.581 - cmch15 - PS4
    5. 1:46.941 - Fab85 - PC
    6. 1:47.115 - Julian2711 - PS4
    7. 1:47.803 - DonZmeuheu - PS4
    8. 1:47.838 - F1415182235 - X1
    9. 1:48.237 - StyleF1re -PS4
    10. 1:48.560 - Laughing Gravy - PS4
    11. 1:48.646 - Boabmatic - PC
    12. 1:48.858 - moodyryder - PS4
    13. 1:48.860 - sissydriver - PC
    14. 1:48.860 - Alpinefd - PC
    15. 1:49.137 - Capirossi - X1
    16. 1:49.275 - Lewisxbone - X1
    17. 1:49.583 - Bobby Situkangpoles - PS4
    18. 1:49.674 - Totall Wrytoff - PS4
    19. 1:49.694 - 365gt - PS4
    20. 1:49.932 - Justray2000 - PC
    21. 1:50.280 - AndyB16 - PC
    22. 1:50.390 - Glitterchebs - X1
    23. 1:51.504 - paul_wev - PC
    24. 1:52.265 - Plastic_Manc - PC
    25. 1:55.461 - flyingcarrot - X1
     
  17. Improvement
    1:49.391
    PS4 G29
    upload_2017-6-22_23-3-16.png
    Is my picture okay? Slightly larger this time to include as much gravel trap as possible.
    Really interesting post by Pretend Racer (why no laptime?) and no trace of an IT problem therein. Sadly the mid-range hardware manufacturers haven't given this as much thought.
    I don't want to be disrespectful but unlike the challenge this week, some of the posts have been a little dry. As we are in the Console lounge of the Console version, I think I'm safe in saying; surely consoles were made for games and computers were made for work and porn.
     
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  18. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

  19. Darienrobbo

    Darienrobbo Racer


    1:51:936 PS4
    A good few weeks since I posted a time. Not that the top of the leaderboard would have noticed. Tragically slow but magically fun, this combo. Feel like I'm nailing every corner - and then I check the time and wonder where on the track I'm going to find 5 seconds. Like Pokemon Go. But with FFB. [​IMG]


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  20. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    photoshop or did you hit my time exactly????? o_Oo_O:p:p

    now i must improve :D:D:D

    (dunno if i can... if not - you must :D:D:D)
     
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