PHYSICS Tyres! oh... it's raining...

Yes it is possible through options.

By the way, Andy from ALOOG in AC used to race with no tires sound in AC, I think it is silly, however perhaps it has worked out well for him, because he used to be one of the fastest. We didn't race GT3 cars though.

Sound is very important, helps to feel slip angle and slip ratio, when tires are screaming or engine revs up. But maybe it is best not to hear tires, because then it means that you are overdriving these cars, I think

But the most important is the view, you could have no problem to be guiding the car that is struggling with grip, lets say in straight line, but just take your eyes away, and you'll lose the car immediately.

 

Yesterday I started to spend some time in the rain in ACC, not really going for lap times yet but understanding the handling. I feel like everything is very authentic and plausible - feeling of grip loss, effort needed to catch a sliding car, the "point of no return", the aquaplaning (do not be 100 % on the throttle!), the slippery curbs forcing you to adjust your lines etc. All of this is very well communicated in the FFB.

I believe this is absolutely ace and the most advanced tyre simulation available as a "game" to the mass market.

It's pretty obvious but yeah...I'm absolutely blown away by ACC so far.

 

Racing in the wet is fantabulous!

 

Ahhh... those were the days.
Of 'cos later came good ffb... the way the wheel would ramp up coming over a crest and drop off/go light. absolute class.

My own experience in the 35 minute stint in ACC...
The tyres seemed to go away near the end but after a couple of laps, started coming back to me.
Whether it was because i went off line a few times and the tires got dirty i don't know.
But when i took my time for the next lap or so, like i said, they came back to me feeling pretty good.

I'm liking the tyres and the, lack of info.
Makes me feel i really need to concentrate in staying on the racing line and understand when i'm just overdriving/pushin too hard.

Can't wait til FFB is more or less final and maybe, just maybe... you add some canned effects for us folks that's not got motion rigs or DD wheels.

Thank you very much for taking the time to share the information that you're allowed.
Your input and knowledge as is all the devs, always very much appreciated.

ps. and the rain... the rain feels crazy good and very scary.
In the rain i can still feel the tyres on the road. Unlike other games where it's just... well less grip %

So yeah, rain feels superb.

 

How does skid marks affect tyres in the dry?
Because you still get them in the wet?

 

Hahaha it was splendid to watch the BMW lose 4 positions in a single turn after the yellow flag cleared

 

We should definitively rename you Arainstotelis !

 

One question about tyre pressures.

On the blog you told about optimal pressure is about 29 psi and between 70-90ºC on dry conditions.

I'm trying to setup the tyres on BMW M6 at Paul Ricard and when the presures are under 26psi, dahsboard shows the info in a light green as "ideal pressure" but when I tried to increase it to 28 or near 29 psi is shown as dark green. It seems as pressures weren't good. The temperature is around 80ºC.

Is there something wrong? Am I focusing on a stupid thing?

One last question: ACC 1.0 or in the future will support Motec for registering data and have the telemetry of the car? You don't want real time apps for ingame. But having this support could make it easier to setup properly the car.

 

You have to read between the lines a bit.

From opening post:

29psi is what Pirelli says is optimal, but teams run a few psi lower than 29psi (measured at operating temps ~80°C).

 

I understood it. That's why i'm asking for it.

"Teams run a few psi lower than 29psi" it means one, two, five psi, How lower is this range?

Also, is this psi importants? Or the most important thing is the temperature on the tyres between 70-90ºC with a slower difference between in and out?

Notice I'm new on simracing I started five months ago and is a big amount of information I already don't understand.

 

Go to page 7 and read the first 6 posts.

With that info you will figure out yourself how to adjust the psi.

 

Thanks both of you for the fast repplies. I understand a little bit more about the tyres.

 

Wow who would've thought you had to adjust yourself so much to real life random events, good read!

 

@Aristotelis hi, how long before the tires are really worn out in GT3. After 1h a race on Paul Ricard, not realy different to grip, not really noticeable sensation.
thank you for your help to my understanding

 

I had a 30 minutes race at Misano yesterday and the grip loss was really noticeable in lap times, as well as handling. I don´t know what you mean with "really" worn out, but in the end i was almost a second slower in lap times than lets say the first 10 laps (despite being low on fuel of course). But I had to push really hard in the beginning. Maybe you haven´t been quite on the limit with stressing the tires.

 

Usually there is a peak in the performance of the tires during the first 2-3 laps. After that the lap times raise slightly until the fuel level drops more and more. About at half amout of fuel left you will be able to achieve the lap times from the beginning and to get successively faster until your fuel is empty. That‘s what I have noticed so far.

 

Thx for response, I chek now

 

I love the rain in ACC. Feels really well done and a fun challenge. But something I have noticed is that my breakin points are the same in wet as they are in dry clear weather with slicks on. I did some testing at Monza today and my braking point into t1 was at the same spot (right before the white line at 150m sign) and top speed was only differing about 5km/h. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me