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[Petition] make lapped cars ( including stuck ones ) ghosts / trigger no collision

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by fabT, Mar 17, 2019.

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  1. fabT

    fabT Alien

    Yesterday i did some MP racing on different public server.
    Honestly it got annoying fast.

    Two of the biggest MP problems imho are the cars intentionally or accidentally stuck on track, as well as the typical lapped guy not giving road and causing accidents. Deliberately or not.

    So -if it's techically feasible- i'd ask to make the lapped cars behave as "ghost" cars and not triggering collisions ( configurable in server settings ).

    That would help quite a lot dealing with connection issues, careless guys and wreckers.

    Would you agree ?
     
    fabT, Mar 17, 2019
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  2. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Alien

    i belive i read somewhere minolin saying they are working on some system for people who are parked and not driving etc.

    As for the blue flag guys just be patiend untill we get the penalities.. it is part of racing tbh just handle it properlly
     
    D.Jankovic, Mar 17, 2019
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  3. Son

    Son Hardcore Simmer

    I personally like the challenge of lapping cars, especially if we are to properly try and recreate long races, like Spa 24h. The best compromise I could see is just an option to turn it on and off for server admins, so if you're in public lobbies, it can be easily disabled, but if you're in a league with proper racers, then having it on is probably better.
     
    Son, Mar 17, 2019
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  4. gabrynet83

    gabrynet83 Gamer

    Hi, I I could agree for stuck cars but I would not to be like ghost. It a simulation theoretically. I would rather introduce a timer for stuck cars removal, I don’t think safety car is doable in a short while.
    The lapped one ... well they are real car and should move aside.

    I hope that the rating system when it will work 100% will “fix” all these issues.


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    gabrynet83, Mar 17, 2019
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  5. Winston

    Winston Hardcore Simmer

    I think we should wait until multiplayer is complete or at least near complete before suggesting fixes for things they probably have in hand.
     
    Winston, Mar 17, 2019
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  6. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    Lapped cars are part of the game, I would miss them. In regular public MP, yes they're annoying, but if you're driving on a rated server or in a league, obviously they have to be there.
    Stuck cars or no input for some time, teleport to pits.
     
    Tberg, Mar 17, 2019
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  7. Timberwind

    Timberwind Racer

    I believe ghosting of lapped cars should be an option to custom community servers or maybe low ranked multiplayer races. Then again I advocate for more FFB options to the end user while Kunos devs want a more streamlined approach. :D
     
    Timberwind, Mar 17, 2019
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  8. Raklödder

    Raklödder Simracer

    No. I don't think this is how they solve the immediate problem and it would annihilate all serious racing and I can't imagine myself ever wanting to lap ghosts.

    Also while we're on the topic of server admins and settings; not being able to kick/ban players makes for poor public racing and more or less gives griefers free reign online,

    but I'm sure the devs will come around once they've gather enough data for their key systems, which I hope will include all of the above and a "votekick" system to remove a few bad apples.
     
    Raklödder, Mar 17, 2019
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  9. westbum77

    westbum77 Gamer

    I'm against Ghost cars, it's not real. No need to turn this game into an arcade.
     
    westbum77, Mar 17, 2019
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  10. Pinguinolombardo

    Pinguinolombardo Racer

    Blue flag in GT races doesn't mean you have to move in the next 0.2 second, giving all the space in the world or get banned for life.

    And personally I'm more into trying to improve person(s) awareness rather than pulling arcade tricks, even if some people will always act their way
    Maybe with a penalty if the blue flag stays out too much?

    For the parked cars teleporting out I'm ok if it happens at the race start because could be a technical problem.
    But if it's during a session, personally I will start to remove SA points increasing the drain rate the more you are parked. And enjoy your 0 points SA :p
     
    Pinguinolombardo, Mar 17, 2019
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  11. Jacobs

    Jacobs Racer

    This. Now in most cases people don't even know if the flags are waving for them and if they are fighting for position or what.
     
    Jacobs, Mar 17, 2019
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  12. gabrynet83

    gabrynet83 Gamer

    As it is right now, blue flag showed by Marshalls, I think is what happen in real life. Isn’t it?


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    gabrynet83, Mar 17, 2019
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  13. Jacobs

    Jacobs Racer

    Also in real life you wouldn't be allowed to race without that knowledge which is not the case in a sim. I think spotter would say if there is faster car behind you anyway. So yeah. Better indication of flags would be good.
     
    Jacobs, Mar 17, 2019
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  14. After_Midnight

    After_Midnight Alien

    Maybe a team radio would be good in this case...
     
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    After_Midnight, Mar 17, 2019
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  15. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Alien

    A blue flag popping up on your screen after you've had the blue flag for 30-60 seconds but didn't act accordingly would be a solution maybe?
     
    Oblit0r, Mar 17, 2019
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  16. gabrynet83

    gabrynet83 Gamer

    Sweet! Would be awesome. At least for the game purpose would be super efficient. Don’t know if the radio is allowed in the real life but I wouldn’t care this kind of detail.l and would make the MP better with this suggest


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    gabrynet83, Mar 17, 2019
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  17. bgil66

    bgil66 Alien

    it's simple and the devs are probably working on it. Throw full course yellow for stuck/crashed cars and the marshalls and tow truck/flatbed comes out and removes them and then the green is thrown again:p
     
    bgil66, Mar 17, 2019
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  18. TDS

    TDS Alien

    ghosting? please NO ...:cool:
     
    TDS, Mar 17, 2019
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  19. tjr

    tjr Hardcore Simmer

    No, I think that dealing with slower cars is just part of the deal. It goes both ways, they have to deal with faster cars coming past them. That's life.
     
    tjr, Mar 17, 2019
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  20. Hexadecimator

    Hexadecimator Gamer

    I'm fine with them becoming ghosts if they don't maintain a set minimum pace for a few laps.
     
    Hexadecimator, Mar 18, 2019
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