Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #124 – “A Long tail on a long track”

Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #124 – “A Long tail on a long track” and the Third Round of our 3rd mini-series - Die Meisterschaft Deutschlands (The Championship of Germany)

The Challenge:
Hotlap
Car: Porsche 962C Long tail
Track: Nordschleife Endurance


It’s Easter holiday week so we’re going to have a big one – it’s a challenge with a capital “C” and also a Group C. It’s the turn of the so far overlooked Porsche 962C Long tail.

WHC veterans may remember Moodyryder’s “I am a legend” WHC#58 (Nov 26, 2017.) Thanks to him, this is a shameless plagiarisation of that excellent combi. It also gives me the chance to repost the link to an utterly fantastic bit of film he dug out for WHC#58.
Derek Bell drove the 962 to 21 victories between 1985 and 1987. He said at the time that it was "a fabulous car and it was really quite easy to drive….” Have a look at this to get you into the mood and perhaps give you a clue on gearbox set-up!
https://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x8buav

Group C was a category of motorsport, introduced by the FIA in 1982 for sports car racing. It signalled a change in philosophy. Instead of the more usual limits on engine capacity, the FIA placed limits on fuel consumption. Group C cars were limited to a minimum weight of 800 kg and a maximum fuel capacity of 100 litres. With competitors restricted to five refuelling stops within a 1000km distance, Group C sports cars were effectively allowed 600 litres per 1000 kilometers.

The 962 was an amazing car, dominating sports car racing for nearly two decades. It was innovative - it was Porsche's very first monocoque chassis, it introduced electronic engine management and it introduced ground effect downforce at higher speeds.
Porsche built 91 962s between 1984 and 1991. 16 were officially used by the factory team, while 75 were sold to customers. The car was powered by an air cooled, 2869cc, DOHC turbocharged flat-6, which produced between 650-680hp.

The cars that ran in the World Sports Car Championship were designated as 962C to separate them from the different spec US series versions. The name Long tail refers to the more slippery, low drag bodywork, so technically this is the Le Mans car. The Short tail body has higher downforce and was designed for shorter tracks.

The Nordshleife Endurance circuit, at over 25km, is the longest bit of road we have in AC. I like the way the new track allows you a bit of warm up before you get to the old circuit, but I don’t think you can drive the whole lap at 100%....

The recommended pressure for the Soft, Medium and Hard 80s Slicks is 30psi at the front and 32psi for the rears.

How to take part - Hot lap:
To enter, select Drive > Hotlap, choose the Porsche 962C Long tail and Nordschleife Endurance Circuit. Please setup the session as shown below:
Mode: Hotlap
Time of day: Free
Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
Setup: Free
Controller: Free
Assists: Free
Stability: Free

To qualify for WHC you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

Deadline: Easter Sunday 21st April 2019 - 21:00 GMT.

You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, testing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

Please use the following format to post your times:
Your time, to be shown as x.xx.xxx.
Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
The image or screen shot showing your time.
Your thoughts and comment

Please mark updated times with Improvement.

A leader board is collated regularly. Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post cannot be updated.



Weekly Hotlap Challenge Championship League

How it works:
1. Enter the Weekly Hotlap Challenge as posted every Sunday evening and you will be automatically entered into the league table.
2. Your ranking in the final standings, posted on Sunday evening, will earn you points, as follows:
Place Points: 1st 15 2nd 14 3rd 13 4th 12 5th 11 6th 10 7th 9 8th 8 9th 7 10th 66
3. Every player taking part in a WHC, but finishing outside the top 10 will get 4 points.
4. Every player who is in the table, (ie has entered a previous WHC) but does not play that week will get three points each week.
5. Players that join WHC after WHC#114 will be awarded 3 points retrospectively for every WHC missed. For example, if you enter WHC for the first time at WHC#124, your name will be added to the table, with 27 points, plus whatever you score in WHC#124.
6. Specialist Challenges will also feature throughout the season. These will be as monthly mini-series, for example Formula 1 February or Muscle Car Month, or nominated car types, for example the best driver in road cars. These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.

The updated Championship league table will be displayed in a new post in the Console Lounge each week.

At the end of the year, the WHC before Xmas week, the winners will be declared -
* Championship podium
* Specialist Challenge Winners
* 1st place Contributor (the most Bonus points)
* 1st place Loyal Lapper (who has entered most regularly, most often, if there is a draw, Bonus points count, then Champ points)

Weekly Hotlap Challenge History

1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
25. Spa - Lotus 98T
26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (Console Lounge p25)
33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
52. Spa - Ferrari F40
53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
62. Imola - Lotus 98T
63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
65. Spa - Porsche 911R
66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
125. Nordshleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail

 

8.24.302
PS4

Shakedown.
Its took me just under an hour to get round the lap successfully.
It's very difficult to keep it on the track in some places. I drove cautiously for this lap, just to get a benchmark down.

 

I had a few goes and I think it will take me 3 weeks to have a time down. I had to learn this track at some stage. The only thing is I have family visiting on Wednesday for 10 days so will eat like a king but very little racing. Great challenge

 

aaah...nords... and downforce - hope i have not to pay the damage i do to this car... emmm - or i try another challenge - this is my car, i am a gentleman driver and no(!) damage through the whole week and a decent lap time .... its worth a try!
@Totall Wrytoff - is it " Die Meisterschaft Deutschlands" or "Porsche Cup" ??

 

Great time Totall. Very impressive!!!
You’ve put my first attempt to shame
By a full 30 seconds.
It’ll probably be next Easter when I manage to get a half decent time on this track.
Love the car though.

 

Haha, good point! When I first listed the combis for this mini-series, Mercedes and Audi were in, with the AMG GT3 down for the Nordschleife next week. But the 962 was also on the list of unused cars and compared the the AMG GT3, it was much more exciting, so I've switched.... The GT3 sounds great so I do want to run that soon, we've also got the Audi Quattro Sport, which drives really well and the Audi V10 R8, Porsche Boxters, Cayenne, Cayman GT4 and 918 Spyder.... So it certainly looks like a Porsche Cup at the moment, but provisionally, that is due to change next week. But we could have a quick poll... from the cars listed above, who would like to see what?

Really??? Thanks Lewis! A wow! For myself!
This was only the second lap I had got round in one piece, the first was disallowed because of half a tyre off the road somewhere. It was far from perfect and I drove round like tiptoeing on eggshells. Maybe that's the way to approach it!
I raised the ride height quite a bit, softened the springs, aero at 2, stiffer rear rebound and transmission had long 1st,2nd,3rd gears with top speed in 5th at 214mph.
Going to put the visor down, find my inner Derek Bell and have a proper go this afternoon, I'll post the set-up details once I've abandoned my work and fired up the console.

 

Really??? Thanks Lewis! A wow! For myself!
This was only the second lap I had got round in one piece, the first was disallowed because of half a tyre off the road somewhere. It was far from perfect and I drove round like tiptoeing on eggshells. Maybe that's the way to approach it!
I raised the ride height quite a bit, softened the springs, aero at 2, stiffer rear rebound and transmission had long 1st,2nd,3rd gears with top speed in 5th at 214mph.
Going to put the visor down, find my inner Derek Bell and have a proper go this afternoon, I'll post the set-up details once I've abandoned my work and fired up the console.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah really mate!! It’s a Wow from me!!!
I’ve managed to knock some time off now,
8:30’s but I think out of 8 laps I’ve done only 1 has been ok with no faults.
The more cautious I am trying not to make a mistake the more mistakes I seem to make.
I just don’t know nords very well so the (stabilisers) green lines are out for the time being.

 

8.07.824 PS4
first lap attempt, I think I got lucky, looking forward to trying to get under 8 minutes here

 

WOW!
That's moving the bar up a fair bit! Good lap AB770577. Under 8mins, no mistakes, would be huge...

 

@Lewisxbone - nords is only bout investing a lot of time. you have to do hundreds of laps until you know this track. than you can attack the whole time.
there are too many tracks in ac to be an expert everywhere.

 

Improvement 8.00.313 PS4

 

8.18.745 - X1X



I doubt I’ll improve much more.
The 2 laps I did after this one I was 4 seconds slower on both WTH!!!

 

9.24.401 Xbox

Not even ashame of myself. Actually proud! It's my first clean lap. Going crazy. I actually really enjoy the old part with this car. I wish I knew the track better but I'll get there one day. Actually that's my challenge for this week. I understand now why it's so mythic

 

8.22.21 pc



found a way to bring the fun back for me:

try to act like an real driver - avoid crashes and be honest to myself doing this!

so - as in the past, starting with cold tyres (thats just for me, tyre blankets - emm... i think its smarter to use them....) - assists so realistic as possible. damage on, tyre wear on
little more tyre pressure, more aero, 30l, medium tyres, 90% turbo, arb softer front and rear.

1. attempt - slightly into barriers after dunlop, light damage right front, too early too much pedal to the metal
2. lap - clean 8:50
3. attempt - killing the "pin" at yokohama-s, no damage, lap invalidated.
4. lap - lost concentration at klostertal, left into barriers, medium damage, lap invalidated 8:44
5. attempt - too early pedal to the metal after yokohama-s, only grass, lap invalidated, no damage.
6. lap - 8.22

This is really challenging, thinking bout the money every crash would eat... so - i am back on fire. this is really good to be nervous around nords.
dunno if i can stand this, but thats my attempt to have more fun in WHC again!

 

wow, only wow. now 7.xx.xxx - this is really fast mate!!! congratulations!!!!

 

Completely agree, that's a world record, beating the RSR Timing Table time of 8:01.017!
I haven't been able to get round again without a crash or penalty!

 

Improvement
9.18.457

 

Did somebody say Nordschleife?

In that case I'm off to have a crash there right now

 

I did Smiley faces but didn't come up