READ HERE About 1.0 multiplayer structure

Yeah, i think that that's the point.
Fast or slow, gain SA on single player is only a matter of time, cause the IA do the most of the job.
So 15mins or 1 week, but plaing on single player you will raise you SA almost 100% for sure if the player isn't a total noob.

Do this online is a whole different story, because, again the player hasn't the same guarantee to incrase. Almost the opposite.

Obviously, nothing drastic can be done to avoid this. Humans and AI are different an bla bla bla.
But imho could be """""right"""" to apply a coefficient/factor when we play on singleplayer just to slow the SA climbing.
In this way, the mote time to gain SA can compensates the ease to gain it.

 

Doesn't that mean that you're a "too mediocre" driver, at least in such a session ;-)
Once the userbase grows, the system should find better matches for you and suggest a server where the drivers are much more on par with you. Closer battles and faster SA gain should be the result.

This SA grinding in SP and then "spending" the points within some minutes ruining a safe MP race will IMO not attract trolls. I said it before somewhere: trolls seek an easy way to p*ss people off. Even spending only 15 minutes in a SP race to be able to ruin safe races will scare them away. So they'd most likely spend their time on low SA restricted servers - which the safe drivers will avoid.

I don't see an issue here. Should an issue arise after 1.0, I'm sure Minolin can do something about it by some fine tuning.

 

In my opinion if people are running offline/SP to 'grind' SA from the 60's to 70 then that should be encouraged, not discouraged.

Anyone who can't get to 80+ in public lobbies could benefit from some SP driving to practice avoiding contact, and even 'grinding' in the manner described will help them get better at that.

My suggestion, if anything, would be to make earning SA offline slow down dramatically after a certain point like 75+, so that an 80+ rating server mostly becomes a place where you know that everyone at least has some online non-AI racing experience.

(Of course, I'm basing these numbers on the 0.7 SA rating system, and the relative ease it is to get into the high numbers if people actually try to avoid all contact, as they should. The numbers may well change after 1.0)

 

so another possible solution is to take into account your current SA

 

you are right

 

totally agree with you.
perhaps in some way what Minolin say in his last post here is something like your idea... will be a fantastic solution that in SP you can grow up your SA until a XX number, but after this XX number for grow up your SA you need to demonstrate in MP. Then depends of this numbers ,the servers with SA minium of XX will be a very very good place

Really nice work of Minolin and all this team of Kunos,congratulations.

 

What we can say is that SA works.
I am now driving at an almost unrated server (SA15) and there was no T1 carnage wrecking. At Monza(!).
So rating has influence to driver's behaviour in the right direction.

 

what is important is that after you pass 80, it will never fall down to 69 again.
I made the mistake to run in open servers. my SA was 84 two weeks ago, then 69.
now I'm struggling to come back to 75.
Let's say that SA zones 0-10,60-70, 70-80 would be good.

 

the main probleeme is to be in game with people having a similar pace to your , not the SA , no ?

 

so 0 to 50 ok in SP. Then there should be these tens zones to be achieved in my opinion.

 

Both is very important.
RC to be able to fight, SA to survive fight.

 

no. everything is important. I think the total score will be the Core of matching.

 

splendid can't wait for cp rating

 

QoL?

 

I think the main issue I have now (apart from the uncertainty as to when you can get a race in an SA rated server) is that SA is very correlated with pace. The high SA servers typically contain people much faster than me (the "PRO" license plate is usually giveaway) and races are boring. So some PC or RC matching would be nice for that. But I don't really see that working with current no players + server browser. A weight for pace matching would be good ultimately rather than servers imposing RC restrictions maybe.

This people grinding SA in offline mode is not a problem at all in my view I don't even know why we are discussing this, SA works fine.

 

Is not correlated to pace, I had 86 SA and I'm normally 3-5 seconds of the fastest guy in most MP lobbies

 

Correlated means "generally true, not always". Only Minolin knows I think from his data

 

you can win among proam or am. those are different standings. perhaps you won more races then anyone here in proam class!

 

@Minolin
I don't want to disappoint you, but I do not see that at the end of ea there will be significant more (new) drivers.
ACC is a niche title. I think almost everybody who hadt interrest in this serious concept of simracing already bought his copy.
The more casual gamers maybe will not buy this title at all.(Only 10 tracks, only 1 class, no rewind button, too restrictive rules and punishment etc.)
But we will see what happens after release.