Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #152 – No Pretending

Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #152 - No Pretending

Quick reminder to all, please use the format prescribed below to post an entry.

The Challenge: Hotlap
Car: Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
Track: Spa Francochamps


Last month I had the great pleasure of corresponding with one of the slidyest, fastest men in the world, to get some ideas for combis and for him to nominate his favourite. And this isn’t quite it! Unfortunately both Zandvoort and Mugello have featured recently, so it’s his choice of car at Spa, instead.
The British built AC Cobra had been around for some time when, in September 1961, American automotive designer Carroll Shelby wrote to AC asking if they would build him a car modified to accept a V8 engine, which Ford, to compete with Chrysler, had supplied him. AC agreed and exported modified cars, less engine and gearbox to Shelby, who then finished the cars in his workshop in Los Angeles.
It appears the cars may not have been particularly well “modified” though.
After an enormous amount of redesign and fettling Shelby produced the predecessor to the car we have in Asetto Corsa, the 390 Big Block Cobra. Surprisingly, the steering rack was borrowed from the MGB while the new steering column came from the VW Beetle. Un-surprisingly I laughed when I first read this - Shelby’s test driver Ken Miles drove and raced the Mark II at Sebring and pronounced the car virtually un-driveable, naming it "The Turd".
So Shelby, with help from Ford, designed a completely new chassis and called it the Mark III. There was a standard model and a competition car, which is the car which we have in the game. S/C stands for “semi-competition. Into the Mark III, Shelby installed the most excellently named "side oiler" 427cubic inch V8 Ford FE engine with a single 4-barrel carburettor, producing a completely insane 485bhp and 465lbs/ft (626Nm) of torque, although Ford never released an official power rating for the FE 427.

I’m sure most of you know that 427 cubic inches is seven litres.

Seven litres. In a car weighing just over a ton, on old fashioned tyres and with a chassis that flexes more than a flexible gymnast. There’s also a thunderous 465lbs/ft of torque, too. In comparison, around thirty years later, the McLaren F1 has only 10lbf/ft more!

It is Spa not Mugello, but there’s more room and it’s scarier. Spa is one of my favourite circuits. It takes a lot of learning and there is a great variety of corners. Thanks very much to Pretend racer for his time and input!
Let’s have a go then…

Recommended pressure for the vintage tyres is 43psi.

How to take part - Hot lap:
To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Shelby Cobra 427 S/C and the Spa Francochamps circuit.
Please setup the session as shown below:
Mode: Hotlap
Time of day: Free
Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
Setup: Free
Controller: Free
Assists: Free
Stability: Free
To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

Deadline: Sunday 10th November 2019 - by 18:00 GMT.
Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!

Please use the following format to post your times:
Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)
Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
The screen shot showing your time.
(Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts and comment
Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the correct format or session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).


Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
25. Spa - Lotus 98T
26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (C.L.p25)
33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
52. Spa - Ferrari F40
53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
62. Imola - Lotus 98T
63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
65. Spa - Porsche 911R
66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
134. Monza GP – Lamborghinis Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
139. Spa Francochamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
148. Mugello – Ford GT40
149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S
150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T
150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
152. Spa Francochamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C

 

Seems like only 21 weeks ago I crashed this into a burning wreck..
here goes


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ChaosChris
2.51.596
Xb1


Gave it my best but I will see if anyone posted any settings to stop sideways Sid taking off!



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Bobby Situkangpoles
2:51.828
PS4
G29


After weeks of failing to show up through none other’s fault but my own, I’ve finally got the time to enjoy this awesome combo and show everyone how rubbish I am with old cars and tyres

Thank you Mr. Wrytoff for keeping this party of ours going!

 

Sissydriver
2.49.632
pc




careful driving



needs a little polish



what a beast!

 

ivann_11
2.51.121
ps4

such a long lap in this... car...

 

Totall Wrytoff
2.48.408
PS4

Left foot elevated, so did a few laps using the paddleshifts, which feels weird in this car.

 

Improvement
Totall Wrytoff
2.47.087
PS4

Too uncomfortable for a prolonged session. Only two whole hours to wait before the F1 highlights programme for me! Has he...hasn't he... Please don't let it be like the rugby!

 

Ooh can’t wait to have a go at this one! Fantastic combo

 

DriverModFTW
2.45.030
PC

I found the stock setting almost undriveable. This will take many laps to fine tune this car to make it lap this course quickly. I tried to tune it some and ended up with this so far. It's more of an adjustment for me to adapt to the driving style required to be quick with this beast. Very fun though!

 

If you find anything that doesn’t sent it straight into barriers when i breath at the throttle, please feel free to share



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Ok, just a quick disclaimer though, I am not an "alien", I have only been sim racing on Assetto Corsa for maybe a year now..I am not great at tuning. Tuning really comes down to driver preference as well. My best advice is to use this car as a training tool to calibrate your muscles/mind on how you should be treating throttle application in any car, especially a vintage wild race car. But with that aside, here is what I did so far..still not how I want it.

 

F1415182235
2:44.474 - X1

Had to alter the suspension quite a bit. Stiffened virtually everything, slammed the ride height, etc.

 

What did you do with camber and alignment?

 

For the moment:
CAMBER: -0.5 F, 0 R
TOE 30 F, 12 R
Front toe is maxed because of the low front ride height (480 F, 0R). I set the height that way to level the car as a baseline and keep it as low as possible. Still messing around with the damper stiffness, although I've got them way stiffer than stock.

 

pretend racer
2.41.682
pc




Thank You TW! Best combo in a while IMO lol.

Last time I did this combo was June 2017, and I did a 2.43.695 back then. I used the same setup which was based on a setup by schnipp downloaded from the setup market. I upped the brake pressure to 100 percent. I probably put the bias back a click or two as well. Put a couple clicks of positive toe in the back, adjusted the psi to suit and attacked the course again.

Looks like after 2 years I was able to gain about 2 seconds which is pretty cool. Still about 3 tenths of the record, for now....

 

Mega lap J! Knew you were going to come out strong for this one
I hope I can also gain 2 seconds though not likely lol - it’s not on rsr but my AC tells me I did a 2.42.8 some time in the past.

 

Current Standings:

1. pretend racer - 2.41.682 PC
2. F1415182235 - 2.44.474 XB1
3. DriverModFTW - 2.45.030 PC
4. Totall Wrytoff - 2.47.087 PS4
5. Sissydriver - 2.49.632 PC
6. ivann_11 - 2.51.121 PS4
7. ChaosChris - 2.51.596 XB1
8. Bobby Situkangpoles - 2:51.828 PS4




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What’s wrong with the left foot, Mr. Wrytoff? Hope everything’s okay!

*didn’t get to watch the Gran Prix myself, 2 AM is just way too late to start my week, but happy to see Lewis clinched the title. Impressive driving at the beginning from him. Looking at the highlights, it reminds me just how good he could be when he’s got the right car under him.
With that said, can we skip 2020 specs and have a go with the gorgeous 2021 cars next year?

 

I had a mid-tarsal joint sprain, I think it's better, pain has gone, limp has gone.
I thought I had done it in training, doc said it could be caused by stamping - ie; jumping onto a Fanatec brake pedal too hard!

I'm having a go this evening, using all feet, see how it goes!