Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 184 - Drifters Duel

Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 184 – Drifters Duel

This idea for this week’s challenge, as with most weeks, is to try to totally contrast with last week’s (mega) challenge! So, this week, it is lots of tire shredding sideways action under the Spanish sun. The German gunslingers are in town and Barcelona is only big enough for one German Drift Master. Who will be left standing once the smoke clears?

Challenge: Hotlap
Car: BMW M3 e30 drift and/or
BMW M3 e92 drift






Track: Barcelona GP



I think one of the hardest skills to master is the art of detecting the absolute limits of traction while maintaining control and speed. That's why I like to drive overpowered rear wheel drive cars that rely on the driver to finesse the speed out of the beast. When you get it right you feel like a hero and when you get it wrong you still come out of the unintended epic sideways drift with a huge smile on your face and maybe a little patch of wetness on your pants !

Barcelona has some of the best drifting corners of all the vanilla AC tracks, and the BMW's are the best drifters. With the stock setup both cars are evenly matched when it comes to laptimes, I wonder if there will be another virtual trophy awarded this week?

Does it really take 30 years of technological progress to be able to burn rubber? Both cars are BMW's, and they are both M3's, but they feel totally different. Lightweight, low power vs technology and more power. What do you prefer?
Either way, both cars respond well to smooth and progressive inputs, and the smoother you can be, the faster you will go. The long sweeping curves really give you time to concentrate on dancing that line between grip and drift while your applying the throttle. Finesse is key.

Bonus Internet Points for anyone who posts any epic drifts, or saves, or who can match my feat of literally blowing up the rear tires in a drift! Check out the sparks in the mirror! First time that has ever happened to me - kinda proud of myself



I was able to set the WR on RSR in both cars during testing. 2min 08seconds is the current target. I'm sure that with a setup designed more for racing than drifting the times will be faster. Please share your tunes!

Ideal tire psi
BMW m3 e30 - SemiSlicks 31 Front and Rear
BMW m3 e92 - SemiSlicks 33 Front, 34 Rear

☆☆PLEASE NOTE: WHC 183 IS STILL OPEN UNTIL 18:00 (GMT+1) TOMORROW. ☆☆
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How to take part:
To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ferrari F40 and the Black Cat County Long Circuit.
Please setup the session as shown below:
Mode: Hotlap
Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 Deg C.

Deadline: Sunday 27th June 2020
Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 18:00 (GMT+1).

You can run as many laps as you can manage and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading (Hotlap) and of course the car being used!
Please use the following format to post your times:
Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)
Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
The screen shot showing your time.
(Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
Please post video clips and share information here as well.

Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
1. Mugello - Praga R1 (Posted by John Gordon 3 Oct, 2016)
2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 (GravelTrap 19 Oct 16)
4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo SL
16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
25. Spa - Lotus 98T
26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M (HavanaB0B, 1 May 17)
30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack (Graveltrap 21 May 17)
33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo (Hugo Catarino, 9 July 17)
40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S (Graveltrap 13 Aug 17)
45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
52. Spa - Ferrari F40
53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray (Moodyryder 23 Oct 17)
54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
62. Imola - Lotus 98T
63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
65. Spa - Porsche 911R
66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura (Hugo Catarino 25 Feb 18)
70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
89. Brands Hatch - Lotus Type 25
90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 (Totall Wrytoff 11 Nov 18)
104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
148. Mugello – Ford GT40
149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (October 2019 - Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3
162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird
163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
165. Nurburgring Sprint - Guilietta QVLE (First thread by Pretend racer)
166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
168. Black Cat County Long - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
169. Vallelunga Club – Porsche 718 Boxster S (Pr)
170. Imola – Ferrari F2004 (TW)
171. Brands Hatch Indy - Abarth 595 SS Step 2 (TW)
171. Nordschleife Endurance - BMW Z4 E89
172. Laguna Seca – Audi Sport Quattro (Pr)
173. Red Bull Ring GP - Toyota Supra MKIV (Mdyrdr)
174. Brands Hatch GP - Audi TT RS VLN (TW)
174. Mugello - Mazda 787B
175. Highlands Short - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder (DrvMd)
175. Black Cat County - Maserati 250F 12 cylinder
176. Nurburgring GP - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (Pr)
177. Spa Francochamps – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Mdyrdr)
178. Silverstone GP – Lotus Type 25 or Elise SC (TW)
179. Laguna Seca – Praga R1
180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - Audi S1 (Pr)
180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - BMW M3 E30 Step 1
181. Nurburgring GP (GT) – Lotus Evora S (Mdy)
182. Nordschleife – Mazda MX5 ND (GG.e/TW)
183. Black Cat County Long – Ferrari F40

 

Great sounding combi @Pretend racer !

Vid made me laugh.
Running on the rims doesn't appear to affect the complete lack of traction.

I'm off to fire up and see if this is a skid fest!

 

E92
Totall Wrytoff
2.13.011
PS4

I did 5 laps in each last night. Slightly reduced fuel only.
Wow, this challenge is massively different to last week!

So the cars run to equal times then, eh?
In that case, I'm not posting the time I got in the E30 and I'm having another go!!

 

Interesting combo - is this a drift or a hotlap challenge ? Luckily the track is well known - I just could not find the time to learn the track for WHC 183. Would have been something to have the best drifter competition here^^. I suck at drifting - never done it.
So, the stock drift cars have way too much camber, so I reduced both values F/R by about 50-75%. I wish the M3 E92 would have been H-shifter right from the start, it makes it so much more enjoyable...

GoodGame.eXistenz
PC
BMW M3 E30 drift
2:05:797




GoodGame.eXistenz
PC
BMW M3 E92 drift
2:06:988 (forgot to screenshot - so here is the RSR entry)

 

It would be hugely interesting to see the time you get without knowing the track!
We don't mind.

 

I've got a souvenir to share, relevant to this post and that I hope, with his obvious pathological hatred of rubber, our host @Pretend racer would approve of.

I used to have an E90 M3, here is a piece of delaminated and shredded rear tyre that I keep on my desk. (pen for size ref)

I had a driving coach day in my car at Bruntingthorpe (old UK airfield now used for speed testing etc) which, you would think, would brilliant fun.
It was about going really fast and understanding oversteer.
But it left me in deep trauma and very, very unpopular at home!

The set of newish rear tyres I had arrived on, had vapourised within 30mins. (Makes a nasty, alarming flapping sound and you stop v. quick!)
"Fair bit of power in this beastie" the instructor murmured, "I bought a spare set for you, just in case."
My fear started. There was such a long day still to go, with a three hour drive home afterwards.
The second set of rear tyres lasted for nearly an hour!
At lunchtime we had to drive to the nearest shop and buy TWO more sets for the afternoon. eek: (That was NOT my idea, it was his!!)
We stopped driving early and I just made it home on the second set. The next morning the fifth set of rear tyres in two days were fitted.
£285 a pop. Literally.
Gutted. Never again.

Footnote - The AC version of the M3 is sooooo wrong. Completely not right.
I had a manual, which evidently has different gear ratios to the semi. 3rd would take you to 105mph and the sound was just "go for it!" utterly fabulous!
I had a few "ten tenths" drives in the Highlands.
When you were on it, the car came up on it toes, and I haven't the words to describe just how much of a Driving-God it made you feel... but trust me. The memories are vivid scintillating. (A940 Forres to Grantown, late one sunny afternoon.... I get goosebumps.)
What. A (nice family.) Car!

 

This is literally my worst nightmare come true I can't drift due to an overgrown heavy right foot

 

Bastian Boillot
2:13:828
PS4



Well this isn't something I enjoy driving

 

OMFG!

 

Improvement
Bastian Boillot
2:13:255
PS4


And it ends here. Don't want to ruin my sunday evening with this If I am cooled down enough, I may give it another try. Definitely need to relax now! So,

This evening it is NASCAR (Cup) evening at Talladega and if you guys would like to give it a try, you can follow the race live onboard (Chase Elliott) ande it'll be spectacular!

Tonight


Highlight Xfinity yesterday

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@Totall Wrytoff 5 sets of rear tires Next time you should buy a set of blue or red neon smokers which costs 1/3 of those roadgoing ones. Bloody lord, an expensive day out Luckily I drive a FWD

 

Out of all the cars I've had to put up with, that BMW was lovely and my favourite. I would have one again.

 

Oh boy, I feel there is a lot to tell

 

I started with the funniest one! I'll try the e92 later this week

Alexis_RS_MKII
BMW M3 E30 drift
2.09.741
PC

 

Haha!
Funny you should say that.

LadyTW is in fact responsible, and 've been very lucky in breadth and depth, for one of THE best experiences I've ever had in a car. And I wasn't driving, I was a passenger.
(Cleanly, chaps!! Cars and driving, nothing else. Not being smutty for once. It does read poorly perhaps, no other way to say it.)
It was genuine, automotive delight.
I'll request clearance before publication.

 

Improvement
Totall Wrytoff
2.12.236
PS4

Tyre pressures now sorted and alignment at factory settings.

If only Kunos had used the manual to model and got the sound right.
Or even better, given us the CSL.

 

Seen you liking that almost immediately @P308R
Sneaky one coming? I've fallen for the false white flag?

 

Haha no no, don't worry. I need at least one night sleep before I dare to try that again

 

Didn't realize how much info the PC version gives for each car.

 

E30
Totall Wrytoff
2.11.912
PS4

I've now had quite a few laps in the E30.
Thinking @Alexis_RS_MKII has gone very quickly indeed!!

 

Bastian Boillot
2:11:209
PS4
E92