G29 pedal upgrade questions

Hello everyone.

I own the G29 but I am looking to get a little more consistency out of the pedals. I am planning to do something this month. My options are the GTEye spring set, Fanatec CSL elite pedals or the Clubsport V3. I can afford the V3 but I would like to upgrade the G29 wheel to the CSL Elite at some point. I’m leaning towards the brake spring mods because the G29 pedals are so well built it seems like a waste getting rid of them. I could also then put that money towards a wheel.

How much will spending 60 bucks for the GTEye improve my pedal set? Or is spending the money on the V3s worth it so much to ditch the 29 pedals and upgrade?

Thoughts?

 

I think, unless your planning to buy a DD wheel, the pedals are more important. The spring mod is a good super cheap option to upgrade your current pedals a little, CSP's are a great upgrade IMO, I could switch my T500 wheel back down to a DFGT and it wouldnt be the end of the world but no way i'd go back to Logi pedals having used CSP V2.

 

I used G25 stock -> G25 with GTEye brake spring mod -> Fanatec CSL LC.

IMO, the GTEye brake mod spring is a very good improvement over the normal one. Never tried the clutch and throttle springs though, but I doubt those will really help you or are worth the money. (some ppl. installed stock brake spring to the clutch pedal and stock clutch spring to the throttle pedals, though I never felt the need to do that)
Especially in cars without ABS the progressive brake helps a lot.


The Fanatec CSL pedals though are a different league though, even to a G25 (or it's predecessors) with GTEye brake mod.
The longer travel for clutch and throttle are a very good improvement on having better control on launching the car and of course throttle modulation while driving. Although I've reduced the throttle travel a bit for two reasons, the throw was a bit too long for my taste, but more important with the set back throttle it's easier to heel and toe on downshifts.

The biggest improvement though is the loadcell brake, I've set up my bushings with a mixture of the hard (I think 3x) and medium ones, this is a pretty stiff brake feel, but you can set it up in many ways and the switch is done in a minute or so. It's easy to swap them, but a bit fiddly.



Looking at it now, if you can afford it, go for the loadcell pedals now, because of these 2 (3) reasons I see:

- re-adjusting your muscle memory takes some time, so if you think about the swap, skip one step and go directly for the 'end'-solution

- (the bigger point) it didn't take long until I could match my old times and within a few weeks pretty much significantly improved my personal bests overall while also gaining more control, better brake feel/precision and consistency


(- if you intend to upgrade your wheel too, then at some point you either need to spent some money on an adapter to keep using the G29 pedals or need new pedals anyway)



Can't help you though on a decission between CSL and CSP, although many now recommend to order the brake performance kit for the CSP which looks like it does the same thing as the bushings included in the CSL LC.
I'm in Germany and the shop says it's 220€ for the CSL LC vs. 390€ for the CSP with brake performance kit.

 

Forgot con of the CSL pedals though (and didn't want to risk it getting lost in adding it to previous post), they shouldn't be used free-standing with a medium or high brake pedal setting, because the whole set will tilt and the front is lifting.

I've explained that a bit here:
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...e-but-not-in-usa-yet.45724/page-2#post-888021

 

The Ricmotech load cell upgrade for Logitech is another option: http://www.ricmotech.com/Load_Cell_Upgrade_Kit_for_Logitech_G25_G27_Pedals_p/rmt-lc27.htm

I've read good things and actually baught one but then got offered V2 CSP pedals so using those and sold the load cell upgrade.

Once you get use to a load cell brake there is no going back, so much easier to control and heel toe. It's much more representative of a car brake, especially race car brake

 

I just installed the GTEye brake pedal mod on my G27 and it makes the brake pedal feel much more realistic and I got used to it right away. Took me less than an hour to install. And my braking has definitely improved, resulting in some faster lap times. Looking at ptracker and analyzing the lap graph, I was always overbraking compared to the fast drivers. Now, I am much closer to their braking performance so, for me, this was a great upgrade for not much money. Also, GTEye's customer service (part delivery, communication, installation instructions) were excellent.
However, at some point in the future, I would definitely move up to the load cell based pedals as the ultimate solution. @Schnipp has been through the full transition from G25 stock, to GTEye, to Fanatecs and if he says it is the bomb, then that's good enough for me.

Good luck with it!
ps- as per Schnipp's post, the pedal set must be firmly attached to something after you do the mod. Mine is bolted into a rig.

 

I had GTEye on a G27 also (did the stock brake/clutch spring swap into clutch/throttle as well.) Unlike you guys I dont think it altered my pace all that much. At first I was slower for a few days or weeks, then more or less the same with a little more adjustability from the longer throw of the CSP V2 throttle. You probably need a rig to make full use of a load cell brake but you can get away with using a wheel stand, I have to keep pulling it towards be as it slides across the carpet a little but ive lived with it for a few years with no real issue.

 

I just replaced my G25 pedals with T3PA-Pro Pedals from Thrustmaster.
Picked them up brand new for £95, the only downside is that unless you have a thrusmaster wheel you will need the T.RJ12 USB adaptor (£13, but constantly out of stock!)
The brake isnt a load cell but the conical rubber that is supplied improves the feel of them.

There are load cell mods available for them and I think they should be quite easy to mod yourself.
A future project is to replace the conical rubber with a load cell (around £45, and connect that to a bodnar BU0836-LC £27).
So hopefully i can build my own load cell mod for less than £80.

Worth considering.

 

I plugged my T500 pedals in once. I'd say they bridge the gap between G27 pedals and CS pedals more or less (I assume they are similar to T3PA.)

 

Could they be inverted andy as the Pro's can be inverted which is why i got them

 

Yep you can flip the base around, it is a nice feature

 

Yeah I have T500 mounted in inverted mode, and modded the brake (basher mod further modified by myself) - if I hadn't done this I would have probably bought a new pedal set ages ago.

I definitely got quicker once used to a harder brake pedal, but still think I lose time compared to Aliens under braking.

However I tend to focus more on exit speed than corner entry, maybe thats why I quite often choose to defend on the outside of a corner for better exit speed instead of compromising exit speed just to hold the so called defensive inside line.

 

Is there a way to increase g29 throttle travel?