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2 words on modding support

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Lord Kunos, Feb 26, 2018.

  1. Lord Kunos

    Lord Kunos His master's voice. Staff Member KS Dev Team

    We are totally aware of the importance of modding and its contribution to the success of Assetto Corsa.
    It's a great way for new talents to emerge, for the community to "suggest" new directions and/or simply to make a product richer. It is not a coincidence that some of the best guys in this community are now contributing with us to the evolution of the software.

    However, for ACC this element will have to be put in stand-by mode for a series of reasons. The most important one is that we have given ourselves an enormous task of rebuilding, once again our software from (almost) scratch. In a world where pretty much every product you see on the market in simracing is an evolution of games that have been on the market 10-15 years ago, our approach is to get a big axe and reset things to (almost) zero before starting with a new project, ACC is no exception.

    In this case the task is rendered more complex by the fact that we are using, for the first time a third party engine that we did not design ourselves and the truth is, given the amount of time we have available to deliver ACC to the public, we have more than enough on our hands trying to figure out how to use the engine effectively to also think about how to make the platform moddable.

    As you can imagine, this has been source of endless discussions in the last year and half as every decision comes with pros and cons, there is going to be pain no matter what your final call will be. It goes without saying that we believe we made the right call even if that means loosing the huge benefits of a moddable platform.

    So to recap, there will be no action from our side regarding modding, both in the direction of promoting nor offering any kind of forum support for it as in the opposite direction, we have no intent to stop it from happening if some smart guy figure out how to do it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2018

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  3. Turk

    Turk Alien

    I think that's fair enough.
     
  4. Really appreciate the clarification, thanks.

    This gives me hope :)

    Completely expected and of course totally understandable for ACC. The acknowledgement of the importance modding has had for AC suggests you guys have not abandoned it totally as a company, so I'm happy enough with that.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2018
  5. Skybird

    Skybird Alien

    Correct decision, I think. I would have decided this issue the same way. Firsts go first.

    :)
    However: that were not just two words.
     
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  6. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Shouldn't this, too?

    So I take modding as appreciated, just that the modders are completely on their own. Which means that fine gentlemen like you now are facing the question: how hard can it be? ;)

    Can you give an initial estimation?
     
  7. Considering 100% of my modding knowledge came from AC, I'm obviously not the right person to ask, having never touched any other engine in my life.

    I look forward to seeing what happens though, and if it looks possible to add cars to ACC you know I'll be there to give it a good go.
     
  8. Cote Dazur

    Cote Dazur Alien

    Thank you for the clarification on that important subject. It must have been one of those, amount many other, very difficult choice that you and the team had to made.
    No doubt that, like your fan legion, you would like ACC to have everything that a 2018 SIM can possibly offer. But the real life compromise have to be made, always.
    You have proven to all of us an uncanny ability to make the right decision on what makes a great SIM in the past with AC. We have no reason to doubt that ACC is going to be anything less than spectacular and addictive, like AC is.
    Looking forward to it and wishing it could be sooner than the spring for early acces, but so do you, I am sure.
    Thank you for all your efforts and hard work that bring us so much fun as SIM driving enthousiast.
     
  9. marcocale

    marcocale Hardcore Simmer

    Someone should make a phone call to Kegetys....... :D
     
  10. TTM

    TTM Alien

    It's more than understandable that ACC won't support modding. I'm more than 150% sure that there will be another AC game after ACC and it will contain modding tools and support for it.

    I would give huge thanks for Kunos for adding modding support for AC, because it was biggest reason why i started modding again after few years of the silence. Without AC i wouldn't have some commerical jobs to do via racing games, so you made my dreams come true. :)
     
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  11. chargingcar

    chargingcar Alien

    Thanks for the Clarification Stefano , understandable with the new engine good luck with the project . :)
     
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  12. LeSunTzu

    LeSunTzu Alien

    I suppose that the ACC rating and match making systems will work only with original content.
     
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  13. Szymik

    Szymik Hardcore Simmer

  14. Glad to hear the transparent honesty from kunos regarding their passion and very glad to see major modders not throwing a major hissy fit and calling kunos sellouts or whatever .Welldone guys :D
     
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  15. MsportDAN

    MsportDAN Alien

    imo AC never really needed mods especially for cars, there was more than enough.. Maybe tracks a need for mods were required.

    But with an official series to follow with proper tracks. Im not sure mods are even necessary anymore, unless your name is rf2 lol!
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2018
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  16. rauf00

    rauf00 Racer

    Totally understandable, thanks for clarification guys ;)
     
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  17. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

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  18. Szymik

    Szymik Hardcore Simmer

    When I saw the announcement of ACC, I decided to make my trailer to see how wet Poznań will look like :)
    This engine has a huge potential, so ACC will be great.
    I don't know anything else...
     
  19. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    It was never necessary but it was VERY much appreciated. I believe modding is in large part responsible for making AC what it has become today. Think of the drifting community that picked it up, the platform offered excelent physics where proper drifting could be possible in a sim. Then there’s the countless tracks, I could never imagine my local track (Barbagallo) being made by a studio as it’s just a small time track, yet there’s a perfect mod out there of it allowing me to drive awesome machinery on it in VR :)
     
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  20. mibrandt

    mibrandt Hardcore Simmer

    Very understandable approach this time around. I wish you guys the best of luck and I am sure you will have great commercial succes with ACC.

    Hopefully a full blown moddable AC2 will be the next natural step when time comes.

    I imagine a lot of modders read this thread - so let me just THANK YOU for all you have contributed with to the great AC ! :)
     
  21. Thanks for clarification.

    I'm slightly worried can Kunos produce enough tracks but it might not be such an issue with Unreal engine. I'm pretty sure people will find a way to mod if the game is worth it.
     
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