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2019 Cars and Tracks BOP Discussion

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by redlinemotorsport.co.uk, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Mach77

    Mach77 Racer

    uuuh… the old bentley and the jag are still surprisingly fast on the 2019 Blancpain BoP :D but I understand that they can be quite slippery. especially the jag :p
     
  2. [VR] DJANGO

    [VR] DJANGO Rookie

    So I'm having an issue with my lap times. Before the new 1.3 Update I was running 1:45's consistently on hungaroring, 1:36's Zandvoort consistently. AI on 95 for racing.
    Now, I can BARELY break 1:40s on Zandvoort and 1:50s on hungaroring, and get smoked by AI on 91.

    I use the Audi R8 mainly, but use AMG and Bentley occasionally and the results are similar (except AMG performs well on new maps by a mile compared to audi).

    Does any one know why I'm suddenly way slower? It's definitely related to the car and its power. Lateral grip and braking are perfect still. I get destroyed on acceleration and straights.
    Aggressive default setups with very minor changes (brake ducts, tire pressure).
     
  3. SimGuy_1

    SimGuy_1 Simracer

    @Coanda Could please tell me the process on how to find this data?
    i would like to find out bop on my cars.
    Also is it possible to get hp and torque data?
     
  4. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    When you open a motec file the weight of the vehicle is listed on the right hand side under summary. As Aris has mentioned weight is only one component of BoP.

    acc_motec_summary.jpg

    I would not know matey however I do have an old spreadsheet I compiled prior to the Evo cars being released. It's purpose was not for engine power info however I did the best I could from what I could find online. I would not fully trust this info though, however it may give you an idea, although it may not as this info can not be validated..

    acc_car_list_info.jpg
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
  5. SimGuy_1

    SimGuy_1 Simracer

    Really appreciate the info mate Thanks.
     
  6. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    No worries.. ;)
     
  7. DeanGuitarist

    DeanGuitarist Rookie

    Anyone knows why they didn't do Laguna Seca for the BOP comparaison ?
     
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  8. Salvatore Amato

    Salvatore Amato Simracer

    Guys I'm a bit shocked by some porsche pace. Are we completely sure the thing is not overpowered?

    I thought the car should be struggling at high speed. False.

    I'm starting to think some cars get too much advantage from setup changes.
    Such as extreme aero changes.
    Should really aero overcome the limit of the tyre? Should really ride height solve all balance problems?
    Is it possible that cars that are supposed to be difficult, with strong aero setups, lose all their weaknesses? But still maintain their strength...?

    At this moment I think that audi, lambo, probably nismo and surely ferrari are evenly strong in all tracks. With the best package.

    In some tracks, one among AMG, 911, 720s and also Amr v8, has always something more than the others.
    In both pace and laptimes.
    At least the AMG has balance problems on full tank (but it can be solved). At least Amr v8 is a bit slower in qualifying. At least 720s never ran. But the porsche.

    Now I know you could say that the problem is me, of course I am part of the problem. But I think there is a huge part that depends on the fact that those cars are on a different level.

    There are some people who are fast also with the 488. But those people are the absolute top simracers in acc. And anyway they proved they are even faster with those cars.

    I'm am currently racing in two leagues. With the very top level drivers. Amg, 911,Aston are the most spread cars, the mclaren has been even banned. The only winning cars. The cars that go on the podium. When there are exceptions, it's due to luck.
     
  9. JnJ | Rayleigh

    JnJ | Rayleigh Simracer

    Are you talking about the cars out of the box, meaning with aggressive preset, or are you referring to their overall potential?
     
  10. Laky Tom

    Laky Tom Rookie

    The Porsche is broken no doubt, been saying it since it came out.

    On another note, I just found out that the NSX is surprisingly quick on Bathurst, what gives? Im not great or anything but its my quickest car in hotlap session- 2:02.4, and I only did around 10 laps (crashed about 7 of those). On the Conrod and Mountain straight Im reaching same or higher speeds than most other cars (249 on mountain straight, 279 on conrod). It is dangerous though, the car cant handle any of the kerbs on the whole track and touching any will kill you. Pushing :02s meant I crashed most of my laps as I mentioned, so for a safer race pace it would be slower ofcourse.

    I thought they made an unpublished buff to it, so I tried it on the "old" tracks again, but its still just as bad.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  11. I noticed something similar too. I had a race yesterday at Mount Panorama at usual in the Audi R8 LMS. Even the driver messed up the corner exits before the straights the Honda behind me was unbelievable fast at the straights without loosing that much at the mountain section. An extremly low downforce setup should be result in a much slower second sector, shouln'd it? So I had checked the replay file:

    Mountain Straight
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    Conrod Straight
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Laky Tom

    Laky Tom Rookie

    Thats some nice speed right there. Yeah I was on the stock aggressive setup which has 14 wing (around 70%) on NSX. I dare not going low downforce, I can barely survive on the mountain as it is.
     
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  13. lordpatou

    lordpatou Simracer

    Whouaw 292km/h seems crazy fast .
     
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  14. First post updated.

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  15. Yesterday I had the guy in a race again and he was able to do 296 km/h at the Conrod Straight :eek: I was asking about his setup but he doesn't answer. o_O
     
  16. Laky Tom

    Laky Tom Rookie

    and what lap times was he running? I would imagine hes slow at the top with such low downforce, no? Sure its cool to pass 3 cars once you hit the straight, but it must be very hard to control on the twists.
     
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  17. SimGuy_1

    SimGuy_1 Simracer

    Damn that is some serious speed.
    Definitely running low drag setup and he is probably braking earlier since lack of wing etc and i'm guessing here but i think he is getting on throttle earlier as well to keep the weight and aero balance towards rear.
    Nice setup indeed.
     
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  18. It's hard to say because I don't have a complete free lap recorded of this guy. My guess somewhere between 2:02 - 2:03. He is losing a bit of time in the mountain section in relation to me but I'm not any kind of reference. I'm still happy surviving this section. :p
    So the gain at the streets is much more as the lost at the mountain in comparison to me.
     
  19. Bathurst before or after 1.3?
     
  20. Rioku

    Rioku Racer

    I really need the track of Imola

    :(
     
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