Advice for Paul Ricard

As the title suggests i'm after advice on how to race on paul Ricard, ive followed a few videos/guides on youtube but i cannot for the life of me get around the Corner at the end of Mistral straight without going wide offtrack in pretty much any car. its virtually impossible to take like anyone else does, i have to brake hard and downshift, and the ai goes flying past... i dont know what i'm doing wrong.. i'm using a Logitech Driving Force GT wheel. ive tried many different spots to use as braking point but nothing works. any help would be appreciated because i really want to do the 6hr. And no i don't know much about setups.. i just use default mostly, as there's no real good explainations on what everything does/affects.

 

I don't have much help but AI is unrealistically fast there compared to other corners I lose time compared to AI as well. Probably this is just a car / setup issue some cars (Ferrari) are faster there. You should be able to take it in 5 gear though.

 

I have no problem taking it in 6th gear, but a little braking (70-80%) needed, the AI can go away with less, so they will be faster every time.

 

i have tried all i can think of but i just cant get through that corner with any speed, i don't know what i'm doing wrong... others can do it, why can't I lol

 

Post a video if you can, the approach and turn in should show what's going on, I'm sure plenty will be able to chime in when they see what you're doing.
Do you know how to make an in-game video?

 

I had the same issue. AI seemed to be going through the corner almost flat out and I felt like I couldn't even touch the brakes or I'd be rear ended.

I just had to take it slow and build up to it. The mistake I was making was trying to go fast straight away.

 

Yeah, similar to Monza's Parabolica.

 

I had alot of trouble on that corner as well, but it looks like you are in a drastically better place than where I was.
I'm using a Audi 2019 version.

I watched driver61 youtube on braking and changed my approach.
What I figured out was that I was braking too late and too much (basically what I normally do). This meant that all the weight was at the front and when i turn the car, the back end gets away since there is no weight on it.

I fixed this by:
Easing on the brake 70-80% (instead of jumping on at 100%) at 50m marker (same as you do).
With this I turn releasing the brake to about 30% and change to 5th.
After the apex (I don't always hit it), I ramp up the power.

Looking at your vid, you are carrying about the same amount or slightly more speed than I do in the corner, so you are alot further along than I am.

Only suggestion is keep eveyrthing the same, but to apply less force on the brake, so more even planed car and able to carry a faster apex speed.
Motec is the bomb for this as you can do 5-10 laps with different speeds, even a spin-off, etc then check min speed.


As I mentioned, I believe you have a faster apex speed than me, so my advice might be moot.

 

sorry, i don't have a video to show. am still trying different techniques but having no luck. just can't work out what i'm doing wrong. i notice most people strart braking/turning at the 50m sign, but for me it just throws me wide and off the track, or i have to slow down way too much

 

that wasn't my vid, but he's getting through it ok. I'm still trying to get it but its not an easy corner in my experience. I've tried almost every car and none seem to be any easier i don't know if its me or my wheel, but it's getting rather frustrating

 

Post a video

 

i think i may have finally cracked the code, instead of braking at the corner i've been lifting off the throttle, letting it coast through the apex then slowly powering on through the corner without using much/any brakes, have tested on the Audi and the 2015 bentley, so far seems to be working will test some more cars. Yes i know it sounds like a noob lol this is my first wheel, so still getting used to it. have always played racing games with a controller.

 

I'm sorry for not reading who posted.

The Bentley is very stable in my opinion, but doesn't seem as fast as the audi to me.
Try at the 75m mark, touching the brakes, not slamming on
Lift at the 50m mark and turn in
To start with, after the apex, slowely put power on. IMPORTANT that you do NOT increase steering when putting on power.

Watch a reply and you should be able to take the corner at over 210kph. Also see how much braking you are doing.
After that, then move braking point closer to 50m mark and don't brake as much.
In Audi, you need a no brake or throttle part, then put on throttle.

Took me a while to get the feel, but its fun. At 90% AI, they are faster than me through it.

 

I have found the way (at least for me) to get through it, with mostly all cars, except for the Lambo, Porsche and Reiter whihc all need a slightly different line/approach. other than that i can get everything though it now at 210+kph.
you also use alot higher AI than me xD mines set at like 65% just because any much higher and its impossible to beat their lap times for qualifying. Personally i feelk the AI really needs some tweaking. its pretty bad overall, a bit too fast and very prone to ramming me off. all of which is pretty annoying.

 

which car u will use for your race...i got a lot setups with 60 liters.

 

I tried a 1 hour race at Paul Ricard in the 2018 Lambo against 100 skill 90 aggro AI and I think the AI needs to be made faster. I can see why the AI can take Signes corner seemingly faster than the human player. 90% of the time I was behind AI on the Mistral straight, gaining a LOT of slipstream, sometimes even hitting 290kph. I had to brake ~10 meters earlier to get rid of that extra speed to get thru the right hander safely. Also dirty air will affect the way you get thru the corner, so keep that in mind aswell.
The AI don't seem to get any slipstream, so I doubt they get any dirty air (please Kunos fix this). So they can brake later and carry more speed thru the corner. I believe this is where the 'illusion' of AI being faster thru that corner comes from, because without AI in front I can pretty much match their cornering speed.

The AI is pretty fun to drive against on Paul Ricard, but the fact that they don't get any slipstream makes it kinda boring to drive against them. I started from last (33rd) position and made it up to 6th position with 20 minutes left in a 1 hour race. The AI need to get slipstream, because every single time I would overtake AI on the Mistral straight because of the huge speed difference cause by me getting slipstream and the AI not. Please fix Kunos.

 

How did you come to the conclusion that AI doesn't get slipstream?!

 

If you have 4-5 AI in a row and I'm behind them, I'm the only one doing 290kph But I will record it to show it.

 

In the first clip look at the relative times. The time between the AI stays the same.
I kinda messed up the 2nd clip because I lifted a bit too much to try and get on the same pace as the BMW I just passed. But you can still see they don't get slipstream. The BMW is doing about the same speed as I'm doing, then around 278-280kph (where a lot of cars max out without slipstream), I start to pull away from him. I even catch up massively to the Lexus in front even tho I lifted a bit on the straight, also after the ~280kph mark.


Lambo AI with slipstream topspeed end of straight:


My topspeed with slipstream: