Advice with new PC build

Hi guys, i'm planning on building a new pc that can manage ACC properly. No need to be able to run on epic but triple screen or VR capable.

Can you give your thought or advice with these components I selected and tell if there are parts that are overkill or bottlenecking? I plan on starting with standard cooling on the CPU since I've read that's sufficient enough besides a few °C hotter and a bit more noise.

Gigabyte X570 AORUS-ELITE
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4286...erborden/Gigabyte-X570-AORUS-ELITE-moederbord

Ryzen 9 3900X
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4278/261299/AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X-processor

Gigabyte RX 5700 XT
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1962/267271/Gigabyte-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-GAMING-OC-8G-Videokaart

Corsair DDR4 2x 8GB 3200
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046/351421/Corsair-DDR4-Vengeance-LPX-2x8GB-3200-C16-Geheugenmodule

ADATA NVME SX8200 1TB SSD
https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/1019906/ADATA-XPG-SX8200-Pro-NVME-1TB-M-2-SSD

Corsair RM750 PSU
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4186/1061990/PC-Voedingen-PSU-/Corsair-RM750-PSU-PC-voeding

Case be-quiet 500DX
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2013/1096008/be-quiet-Pure-Base-500DX-Black-Midi-Tower-Behuizing

 

For optimal performance with Ryzen, the RAM should run the same frequency as the CPU internal infinity fabric. Which means get 3600 DDR4.

Google for "infinity fabric clock" to get more details, first result is a document Corsair provides, or various videos.

The new NVIDIA series will be launched next week, wait for the introduction and maybe price drops of the current cards to decide what you buy there.

 

Thanks for the tips! Odd that even on the Gigabyte website they show highest frequency as 3200 but on this website https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/ I found this:


"In this memory scaling review, we examine the memory performance of the flagship Ryzen 9 3900X 12-core/24-thread processor across seven memory clock settings: DDR4-2400, DDR4-2666, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3600, and DDR4-4000, as well as DDR4-3200 running in single-channel mode. The higher memory frequencies are extremely difficult to achieve and hold on the older generations of Ryzen. DDR4-4000 is also the gateway to the enthusiast frequency band running between 4000 to 5000 MHz. AMD processors now theoretically support memory multipliers all the way up to DDR4-5000, and this speed has also been demonstrated at Computex.

Unfortunately, we were not able to test the DDR4-3733 "sweet spot" configuration recommended by AMD because our CPU simply was not able to run at the required 1867 MHz Infinity Fabric—1800 MHz was the highest, which we're covering with the DDR4-3600 test."

When checking for 3600's from G.Skill I found these 2 who are almost identical. The
F4-3600C16D-16GTZRC for €108 and F4-3600C16D-16GTZN for €150. Where's the price difference from?
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046...600Mhz-RGB-F4-3600C16D-16GTZRC-Geheugenmodule

https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046...3600Mhz-RGB-F4-3600C16D-16GTZN-Geheugenmodule

 

For everything above 3600 you need to overclock the infinity fabric, which is just luck, so 3600 is a good option.

Don't trust data on those shop websites, look up at the manufacturers:
https://www.gskill.com/product/165/...BDDR4-3600MHz-CL16-19-19-39-1.35V16GB-(2x8GB)

F4-3600C16D-16GTZRC
Trident Z RGB
DDR4-3600MHz CL16-19-19-39 1.35V
16GB (2x8GB)

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/326/1562839299/F4-3600C16D-16GTZN-Overview

F4-3600C16D-16GTZN
Trident Z Neo
DDR4-3600MHz CL16-16-16-36 1.35V
16GB (2x8GB)

The timings are different, lower is better.

 

Thanks Thomas. Just watched this comparison test

Not sure if it justifies the price difference. There's very little difference in av. FPS and since i'm not planning to OC my RAM .. but then again the 16-16-16 is supposed to be Samsung B-Die whatever that means, other than it should be more stable if I decided to OC... Ok i'm sold on the 16-16-16 for the extra 40 quid

 

I'm also a fan of AMD Ryzen and would like to be a fan of their graphics card, too... but atm. I would not recommend a 5700XT. It has more raw power than a RTX2060 (super) but the AMD drivers are not as good as the nvidia ones and it lacks features you only get with RTX cards, like DLSS (2.0), raytracing, etc.

That card is at 399€ in the store, for that price range I would recommend to add another 6€ and get the ASUS Geforce RTX 2060 Super DUAL RTX2060S O8G EVO V2 Vide

I know the 5700XT is more "bang for the buck" on paper but more games are optimized for nvidia and they have features you don't get with an 5700XT.
When video recording the games it is a no brainer with Gefroce Experience, whether it is a DirectX game or OpenGL or Vulkan... With AMDs recording you can only record DirectX games or have to switch to third party programs and the recording quality at the same bitrate is better with nvidia hw acceleration than what amd offers.

Maybe if you wait until October or November when AMDs RDNA 2 cards will launch you could get one of those. I hope for something similar to the impact the Ryzen had against Intel CPUs when the AMD RDNA2 cards launch. Still I fear the upcoming Ampere cards (RTX 30x0) gonna be monsters, but maybe they will be priced over the top and AMD cards could be the better choice for gamers.

I'm nearly in the same situation, having a decent cpu upgrade in a couple of days and looking out for a good budget GPU upgrade (same price region as yours) in the near future.

 

Or if the LED lights are worth it, you can get the F4-3600C16D-16GTZ for a lot less.

 

I just built a new pc about a month ago. but I don't run triples or VR so im not help there. But I'm very happy with the results everything is on epic and full draw distances but I'm running a 1080p on a 42" tv at the moment.

AMD 3800x - couldn't justify the price difference to the 3900 because i don't do streaming or video editing just strictly gaming.
EVGA 2070super xc gaming - same couldn't justify spending twice as much for a 2080ti
asus tuff x570 motherboard
2tb seagate HDD
500g WD black NVMe SSD
gskill trident neoz 3600 CL16 16g (2x 8g sticks)
deep cool matrexx 50 case
EVGA Supernova 650 80 plus gold

 

The RX5700XT is a good card, but just remember that ACC hates AMD-videocards for some reason. As ridiculous as that is, it is true.

 

Thanks to the much appreciated tips I adjusted my shopping cart for now.

Gygabite X570 AORUS Pro instead of the AORUS Elite
Ryzen 7 3800x instead of 9 3900x
Asus RTX 2070 Super ROG Strix A8G instead of RX 5700XT

 

A good B550 mainboard with the 3900x will cost the same as the X570 AORUS Pro with 3800x, but with a much better performance. Plenty of benchmark comparisons available between those chipset types, might be worth investing some time to research the reviews.

 

I randomly read the post below today, it might be helpful with your decision. It is a big step regarding RAM speed there, but latency still seems to be important in ACC (unlike many other games).

And the post: https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...0-to-rtx-2080-super.63683/page-3#post-1161435





Regarding the GPU, the new series was shown. A lot more performance for the same price:

Time @ 30:10 and the next minutes

 

Love it everybodies 2080ti's are not even gonna be worth 400bucks. 3070 beats it for 500 and does rtx 2x as good

 

Yes, expect the servers to be really empty for a while because of the many suicides among 2080 ti buyers. To donShere, maybe it is a good time to wait a bit. Or pick up a second hand 2080 ti for around 50 dollars.

 

Had my 3900x for a bit and its a great chip. As mentioned, just give it a couple of weeks on the gpu front. There are going to be some great second hand deals on the 2000 series of nvidia cards.

 

Thanks for the tips guys. I watched the Nvidia release and decided to wait for the RTX 3070. Glad I didn't bought a 2070 yet I also think i'll go for the 3900x and the 570 mobo.

 

In the meantime I got my pc upgrade

old:
Asrock 970 Extreme 3 AM3
AMD FX 6300
8GB RAM DDR3
256 GB Sata SSD Crucial MX500
Nvidia GTX960

new:
Gigabyte B550M S2H
Ryzen 5 3600 (no oc yet)
32GB RAM DDR4 @3200 16-18-18-36 (not optimized yet)
1TG NVMe SSD Kingston A2000
Nvidia GTX960

I measured the boot time with a stopwatch in my hand:
As I've put my finger on the power button I started the stopwatch with my other hand.
I made my windows autologin to my account so I don't have to wait/interrupt the startup process.

to the desktop it took 11s
the browser was ready and had finished loading the startpage with news, etc... at 14s

Well, I'm pleased

I still have to test ACC, but I don't expect better fps, as I have to wait and again put some money on the side for a new GPU.
But now I'll be able to have more AI opponents and maybe it helps with many opponents on servers as well.

Will benchmark some load times for ACC. Still have my old SSD and will connect it just to transfer ACC to it and measure the same load times there as well.
Still curious, if there won't be much difference, as suspected from some other users.

 

I didn't really notice any difference in load times when I upgraded to my Samsung 970 Evo nvme drive from an SSD. ACC already has amazing load times vs. other Sims though so that's fine.

 

It's finalized!

Ryzen 5 5600x + Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
RTX 3070 AORUS Master
X570 AORUS Elite
G.Skill DDR4 Trident-Z 4x8GB 3600Mhz CL14
Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB M.2
Corsair RM750

 

Just a thought,
G.Skill DDR4 Trident-Z 4x8GB 3600Mhz CL14 is really expensive.

You could use two sets of these as well and put them to 3600 Mhz with CL 14/15:

Patriot Viper Steel DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-4400, CL19-19-19-39 (PVS416G440C9K)

My kit runs with 4200 Mhz, 17, 17, 17, 36.