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Anybody agree with me that VR is a huge advantage?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by rpm, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. Salajutsu

    Salajutsu Hardcore Simmer

    I went from painstaking triple screen setup to VR and honestly, I will have to agree with the advantage. Not that....you get major time off of your laps. It made me more RACEABLE. I was closer, more in the fight than ever before because of the perception. It's flawless.
    I took down my triple screens to let a friend use a good monitor. I DO miss them, but not for sim racing anymore. More like games like Rocket League where the FOV and peripheral vision really helped.
     
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  2. Fat Rich

    Fat Rich Hardcore Simmer

    I went faster when I got triple screens, the extra peripheral vision allows me to judge yaw angles and catch slides earlier... also can see apexes and exit points on tight corners, plus cars racing alongside.

    Same story with the Rift..... but I'm setting the same laptimes as with the triples, no faster.

    A big improvement over a single monitor though.... as usual in motorsport, the more cash you spend, the faster you'll go ;)
     
  3. TheReaper GT

    TheReaper GT Racer

    Pointless discussion here. Every system is different and from one point of view, the other's system could give advantages. One have better graphics, with higher FPS, other have triples, other VR, other a pad, other a DD wheel.. It's the kind of thing that is what it is and if you can't buy the things that give you what you think is advantage, it's your problem. On the other hand there are some people that is fast as f*** with a single display, a pad and onboard graphics... So, again, pointless.
     
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  4. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    Not, 144 hz monitor is a really big advantage.
     
  5. bondyboy

    bondyboy Alien

    More so than an Oculus? ;) (ex 144Hz triple screen user here btw)
     
  6. henri

    henri Hardcore Simmer

    Whatever new toys you buy you probably start to drive more -> better lap times. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Whipdiddywhip

    Whipdiddywhip Simracer

    the only thing that will trump vr is a holodeck
     
  8. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    Turn the whell, apply brakes and gas 10, 20, 30 ms later is a big advantage on my opinion.

    It is easier to correct any oversteering with a high refresh monitor. Easier to reach apex too.
     
  9. Tiago Fortuna

    Tiago Fortuna Simracer

    I have hundreds of gaming hours in one screen, thousands in triples and not even close to 100 in VR... I was immediately faster in VR.
     
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  10. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    Tripple screens probably cause some higher time response.

    The best stituation ins a 21:9 monitor with a high refresh rate and some tecnnology like Gsync or Freesync.

    When the VR have at least 120 hz refresh rate and a technology like Gsync or Freesync, will be better.
     
  11. Tiago Fortuna

    Tiago Fortuna Simracer

    Refresh doesn't matter in simracing as far as I'm concerned.

    In FPS, YES and even then you'll.

    VR advantage is the depth perception. You can judge much better about the car dimensions and distances and it's easier to hit the apexes (by quite a bit really). You can nail those brake markers more consistently.

    YMMV

    Meaning, you just become faster because you can judge better not because you developed instant driving skills :)
     
  12. unknwn

    unknwn Alien

    As VR tries to mimic RL world view/perception and if it suceeds at you instantly should feel "at home" because you experience this/similar view and perception in you daily life for many years. While driving on 1 screen requires special skills that you learn by playing computer games.
    I think it would be more appropriate to say that 2d screen puts you at disadvantage relatively to what is expected when driving a car instead of saying that VR provides you advantage. Although that's just a words play.;)
    TLDR: VR is better at simulating driving compared to 2d screens.
     
  13. Bo-Göran Larsson

    Bo-Göran Larsson Hardcore Simmer

    No I have to drive like a granny or else I puke.
     
  14. unknwn

    unknwn Alien

    Some people (often kids) puke in the car especially if its moving backwards and its hot :D
     
  15. Full_Ninja

    Full_Ninja Racer

    Sounds
    Sounds like you would like the Crew Chief mod.
     
  16. Full_Ninja

    Full_Ninja Racer

    You people use a screen? That's cheating. I only race by sound. Jk
     
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  17. Full_Ninja

    Full_Ninja Racer

    Not just depth perception but scale. Everything is 1:1 life size.
     
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  18. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    You can see better the turn in, apex and turn out points with VR, I agree.

    But it doesnt matter. If you see, but see later, you brake in a incorrect point, turn the steering in the incorrect point etc.

    Its not about you can see, but when you see.

    When I change from a 60 hz simple monitor to a 144 hz monitor with gsync I brake 10 metters later on every track. In reality, I brake at the same point. But, when I am on the mark of 100 metters, I still see the 110 metters mark on a 60 hz monitor. For braking is not a huge problem. But when you have to make decisions to reach cm of distance, matters a lot. I became a new driver with the 144 hz monitor.
     
  19. unknwn

    unknwn Alien

    Doesn't really matter muchs, because in the long run you will adapt to your screen latency and just naturally start braking earlier (i.e. find another braking point or brake 10meters before your braking point where would you would expect it to be with lower latency), because the point of braking is predictable unlike contact movement in FPS shooters.
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
  20. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    Brake is not the only problem. Feel the car understeering because of latency, and when the car is become oversteering because your steering inputs, you still moving the steering to the side of the corner and late countersteering.

    When I bought the 144 hz monitor the Drift challenges of Special Events become very easy. Try to do the same on a TV, for example, you can see the difference.

    Chicanes is another problem, when you have to do one corner to one side and them to the other side. Latency ruins everything.
     
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