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Assetto Corsa Competizione - Generic discussion

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by bgil66, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. Arpadian

    Arpadian Racer

    yeah, is down, ppl already reported it on r/steam
    chksix likes this.
  2. mkotechno

    mkotechno Simracer

    Yea sure, tell me more about how well you feel the front wheels understeering. <rolleyes>
  3. Whitestar

    Whitestar Hardcore Simmer

    Do not feed ^^
    tjr, jaxx_za, Lord Kunos and 6 others like this.
  4. mkotechno

    mkotechno Simracer

    I'm having a negative opinion, therefore I must be a troll.

    Internet echo chambers 101.

    Just imagine if one of the most respected member in the simracing community would say one of the core features of ACC is completely broken, oh wait, he did:

    11:40: "The force feedback in this (ACC) is essentially useless ... mid corner there is literally no information [...] without front wheels feedback, you have to drive with the visuals"

    And that's with a direct drive wheel, with a "cheap" G29 is possibly much worse, still if someone tries to raise the problem in the forums then that person is a troll.

    But keep teeling the devs everything is fine, so the game never improves.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  5. Timberwind

    Timberwind Racer

    And when Kunos decides to ban him, there will be 2 other people screaming censorship. Maybe that is good deal though. But what he does is not criticism with arguments, but pure, hostile toxicity. I answered a bit more detailed on another post of him and there was no reaction back.
    jaxx_za, Oblit0r and LeDude83 like this.
  6. mkotechno

    mkotechno Simracer

    I'm not reacting => hostility
    People asking not to react to me => not hostility?

    Nice double standards bro.

    I'm not argumenting? Ha! I'm still waiting someone to argument regarding the lack of frontend ffb feeling, instead of jumping personally onto me. As usual people accusing others of the same they are doing themselves.

    Bah, why I'm even wasting my time here, 6 months later same broken game, same overdefensive complacent community. Enjoy your echo chamber, I will be back for 1.0, maybe by then the game is fixed (but sadly I doubt it).
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  7. What if you sometime read your own posts and think why the community don't answer to you? Or if someone answer he does it in a sarcastic way. I'm pretty sure you're wise enough to see that if you try. :)
    Whitestar and LeDude83 like this.
  8. Paul Sutton

    Paul Sutton Simracer

    Defiantly something fishy going on here i have a OLD Microsoft ffb wheel and i can detect when the front losses its grip its ever so subtle but i can feel the wheel go slightly loose, If i just back off and slow down the wheel comes back to a stiffer feeling.
    LATE4APEX likes this.
  9. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Let me just say my compliments regarding 0.6: the performance is better now and the additional GFX settings allow further FPS gains - well done. I play MP, exclusively and I'm almost always getting my target 73 FPS in pretty much any scenario.

    Game crashes seem to be a thing of the past, mostly.

    The appearance of the track seemingly was improved, also. Wet and drying tracks look fantastic and IMO the dry daytime visuals look way better.

    Sound remains top notch as well as physics and FFB.

    The game has been changed IMO and now I'm starting to really, properly enjoy it.
    Ace Pumpkin, Dookie, Schnipp and 4 others like this.
  10. MathMilitary

    MathMilitary Gamer

    excellent at all levels, really a nice job @Kunos team. I have rarely, in fact ever had so much fun against an AI, I look forward to the rating and damage in MP. I can not wait for more.
    LeDude83 and sissydriver like this.
  11. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Hardcore Simmer

    Problem with you is that you don't 'raise the issue', you go into threads crying how bad the FFB supposedly is. You join threads merely to troll and whine about how horrible the FFB is and how the community doesn't listen: https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...p-with-ffb-with-csl-elite.55531/#post-1031617

    Here, read this, you might've missed it since you weren't here:
    Timberwind and LeDude83 like this.
  12. mkotechno

    mkotechno Simracer

    TL;DR: "We are not putting feedback in your force feedback device, if you want to feel g-forces buy a motion platform you peasant."
    Lord Kunos likes this.
  13. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Hardcore Simmer

    "Will we provide effects that some people ask just because they are more fun or give an easier to understand feedback even if we know they are not realistic? No."
    A-Jin likes this.
  14. mkotechno

    mkotechno Simracer

    Also I don't buy you cannot feel if the wheels are understeering (sliding) or not, in any car, no matter if RWD, 750hp, or low suspension. This goes against any common sense.

    In my opinion Kunos is just using the "bUt iTs iS LiKe tHiS IrL" narrative to hide that their implementation is bad, and simulating all forces on the wheel from real data, even being a good idea, it is clearly not working.
  15. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Hardcore Simmer

    "Some extra information that might help you in your quest. These tyres have a peak slip of only 4 to 5 degrees. The cars are very aero sensitive. Drive to the limit and when you're on it, play with the steering wheel to around 3-4 degrees... that's where the feedback is, that's where you will get information if the tyres are sliding or not, that's where the car will react too. Slight vibrations, slight force changes, slight line changes... that's your feedback you should focus on.
    If you're moving the wheel left and right way past the limit searching for a big drop in FFB force, then I'm sorry, this will never happen, the car will feel dull and you'll think you're sliding around."

    Just read the entire post so I can stop copy-pasting please, thanks in advance :)
  16. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    Well, it's how they decided the FFB is going to be and that's that.

    You think that you can make them throw that all out of the window by just keeping on complaining?

    I hadn't played ACC since 0.4, so at least 2 months, until 2 days ago. Got into the Nissan at Monza and could tell quite well in my 1st lap at Lesmo 1 when the car understeering. That's even with a old, by today's standards rather crappy, G25.
    LATE4APEX, Son and chksix like this.
  17. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Ok you're pushing it.
    We have make several posts explaining exactly what it is happening, and what our choices are. There are thousands of people extremely happy with FFB even on low end wheels.
    If you don't like it fine, maybe you'll be happier with a different sim, your choice.

    But spamming the forum everywhere seeking for attention is not ok here. You can go on other forums to do that if you like and if they let you.
    Last warning.
    mikendrix, ctnich, sid1965 and 15 others like this.
  18. T500RS and I have some feeling of the understeer....
    You can feel brown before feeling the understeer on your butt with car with way less tech....
  19. Marceline

    Marceline Gamer

    Well i have a g27 and i can feel the front wheels and pretty much everything.
    It's sad that people get their opinions from a mentally challenged youtuber.
    mikendrix, LATE4APEX and LeDude83 like this.
  20. pablito

    pablito Rookie

    We can say few bad things about EA for sure like crap mirrors or really bad CPU optimisation...but for sure FFB and sound are great in ACC right now like there are. Im on T300RS with Ferrari Alcantara edition rim and it feel great. Some curbs feels little dead but overall its amazing.
    I can feel weight of the car, what wheels doing...everything.

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