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Best and worst FFB per car

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Paul Maidens, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Paul Maidens

    Paul Maidens Gamer

    Hi,


    *Edited to try and make my question clearer*

    I'd just like peoples opinions on which cars FFB gives you the most feedback of how the car is loosing or gaining grip. I find that there is allot of difference between some cars, with some feeling not as I'd expect to others feeling realistic.

    The two I find furthest apart are the new Lotus GX/GTC feeling excellent and the Ferrari 599 feeling light with no feedback.

    Does the Ferrari 599 really have steering this light in the real world?
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2014

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  3. ears1991

    ears1991 Alien

    the 458 also feels light, the ffb itself is good across all of the cars imo but just the weight of the wheel varies drastically on some cars where you might not expect it. At least with G27
     
  4. Horus

    Horus Alien

    This might be wrong, but I thought most sports cars nowadays have power steering so they will be light/heavy until you adjusted that with your mechanics. As for the feel of the cars, yes some are lighter than others but they all seem fine by me. I still would like a slider for steering ration and steering strength in the garage, other than that I am a very happy Sim racer.


    @ ears1991 100% on damper and spring effects in logitech profile? You don't like the insim feel do you. 87% gain, wow how much red do you see in your pedal app? :)
     
    kalabaleek likes this.
  5. petesky

    petesky Simracer

    i find the open wheel racers have to best ffb, when you lose grip you can feel it...
     
  6. Big Engine

    Big Engine Simracer

    IMHO one of the best aspect in AC is that unlikely other titles the ffb is very consistent between the various car. Sure the feedback changes depending on the nature of the car. Everything feels great and what matters is how much I like the driving style required from a particular car
     
  7. Cote Dazur

    Cote Dazur Alien

    In answer to the OP, I do not have a favorite, I like them all and I am very happy they are different.
    What is the Ferrari like in real life does not worry me, I trust that Kunos did their home work and this is how it is supposed to feel in comparison to the other.
    I am with Horus comment, first and most important is to have the right set up that allows the FFB information to reach the wheel.
    This means, the least interactions as possible from the wheel brand driver, insure the in game FFB setting is not saturating ( no red in the gray bar) and ( for me at least) all can effect at zero.
     
    Big Engine likes this.
  8. alex72

    alex72 Alien

    I thought a guy gave his testimony of the 599XX EVO that it was very close to real life. Yeah, someone that had driven it IRL. Its somewhere here on the forums i think.
     
  9. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    I think the sim has a decent stab at recreating the sort of steering feel you'd realistically get in each car type.

    The road cars have road car steering feel, the race cars have race car steering feel.
     
  10. Big Engine

    Big Engine Simracer

    Same thing happened with lotus 2-11 and ferrari 458
     
  11. Paul Maidens

    Paul Maidens Gamer

    I really struggle to drive the 599XX EVO (sorry I put FXX on the original post o_O) because of the FFB.
     
  12. ears1991

    ears1991 Alien

    http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...eels-official-thread.3295/page-26#post-110729 See Luca's post... Im aware games like rfactor should have these set to 0 as the damping is generated by realfeel plugin and the like, but from what i can tell AC does not work in the same way, having damping on 0 makes the wheel ridiculously light in some cars.
     
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  13. Horus

    Horus Alien

    That might be true but you will feel the car better once you are used to driving not fighting a car. There is a good strength of feedback and then there is just going to the gym feedback. It's up to the individual to either feel what the sim/game is giving or addon feel from another program. I like to feel the car, track and the subtle moments in between, in AC there are these feedback touches that are nowhere else and if you just want to have a fight with your wheel you will lose those moments. It's all personal preference, as if it really matters how you setup your own hardware or software, if you have a huge smile on your face at the end of the day. :D
     
    Snarffu likes this.
  14. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    I think its worth at least trying Kunos's default settings in game and profiler. Trying to 'port' settings from other games just doesn't seem to work.

    Setting overall 107% in profiler seems to help with the lack of feel around the centre position in some cars. It does make cornering forces quite heavy though. Apparently Kunos are working on new FFB code, I've not seen an ETA for that though.
     
  15. DrSmile

    DrSmile Racer

    I go with momo racing ffb wheel and

    best ff-feeling : F40
    worst ff-feeling: formula abarth (i just feel nothing through the steering...no bumps, over-understeer etc.)
     
  16. Phil64

    Phil64 Simracer

    I think this can be really deceptive. When I first tried the t125 I had the impression that it was way too light and far too easy to drive. Now I'm closer to the limit I'm really impressed by the ffb - my 1st impressions were wrong and this is easily my favourite car.
     
    Cote Dazur likes this.
  17. Pretty pointless thread IMO....FFB is determined by so many factors I'm not sure any two people are feeling the exact same thing. How you have your wheel set up, how you have your in game settings, and how hard you are pushing the car all go into the FFB that you feel.

    That being said, the 599XX does have the 'weirdest' feel out of all the cars to me...it's better since they updated it, but at times the wheel is still light and twitchy.
     
  18. Paul Maidens

    Paul Maidens Gamer

    Dr Smile thanks for being the first to actually give me an answer regarding my OP. ;)
     
  19. TCLF

    TCLF Alien

    everyone did, but their answers were way more advanced
     
    Phil64 likes this.
  20. vivd

    vivd Racer

    As ears said,the 458 feels somewhat lighter shall we shall.
     
  21. Paul Maidens

    Paul Maidens Gamer

    I suppose a gaming wheel can only give a certain amount of feedback compared to the real thing. It would be nice to feel what a full butt kicker setup through simvibe could add to the experience.
     

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