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BoP Adjustments v1.5.7

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by scalefox, Sep 24, 2020.

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  1. drukqs

    drukqs Racer

    exactly, and Aris at least for GT3 (not very ffamiliar with GT4 BoP) only shared what is basically obvious for everyone to guess with the Nerfs (like the Porsche in general or AMG at certain tracks), but shared only one buff to a car not a lot of people care about the Jag. Smart IMO.
     
    drukqs, Sep 24, 2020
    #21
  2. PetrolHead247

    PetrolHead247 Racer

    When iRacing makes changes to the balance of cars, they say what they changed in their patch notes. They obviously do not give exact numbers, but they tell you what you need to know. They are also under various NDA's. Not sharing changes has nothing to do with NDA's.
     
    PetrolHead247, Sep 24, 2020
    #22
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  3. Felge Schneider

    Felge Schneider Hardcore Simmer

    So does that mean, you went away from the real life BoP a bit in order to achieve a better balancing of the different cars?
     
    Felge Schneider, Sep 24, 2020
    #23
  4. Boonatix

    Boonatix Racer

    Well, it is a game - and changes to the balance in a game should be documented, so that players diving into theorycrafting know where to go... but I come from a totally different segment like WoW and Diablo and PoE, so I am used to a different kind of patch notes and communication with the community ;) Anyway, happy that we got some kind of "balance" even though we have no clue what was balanced :D
     
    Boonatix, Sep 24, 2020
    #24
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  5. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    sissydriver, Sep 24, 2020
    #25
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  6. pankykapus

    pankykapus KS Dev Team Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Just go and drive the damn thing.
     
    pankykapus, Sep 24, 2020
    #26
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  7. pankykapus

    pankykapus KS Dev Team Staff Member KS Dev Team

    No, it's using the very limited freedom we have to make the field more balanced, while respecting all real-life car and BoP data that still continue to remain untouched.

    All in all, the changes are very minor and respect the existing strengths that each car already had.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2020
    pankykapus, Sep 24, 2020
    #27
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  8. Captain Barracuda

    Captain Barracuda Hardcore Simmer

    I appreciate the ongoing work you do @pankykapus . The timing of this BOP update is quite poor though. We are currently half way through the Official SRO Asia esports Sim-AM qualifying at Monza. So now it will be basically impossible to chase down laps already set in certain cars (only top 2 in each car gets in). Fingers crossed SRO reset the leader boards.
     
    Captain Barracuda, Sep 24, 2020
    #28
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  9. PAPA JOHN 2

    PAPA JOHN 2 Rookie

    Going the Epic Games route. No real patch notes.

    Awful decision imo.
     
    PAPA JOHN 2, Sep 24, 2020
    #29
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  10. David Danser

    David Danser Racer

    Interesting, never saw anyone driving the Jaguar. Always thought this old model was not really a match for the newer cars. But if it is included in the BOP it should be possible to be fast in it?
    Would be great, anyone driving that car now?
     
    David Danser, Sep 24, 2020
    #30
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  11. Artworx

    Artworx Gamer

    Oh well... we changed something on the bop, but we never tell you what we did exactly.
    You have to give the guys some credits for lowering the bop on the Porsche and hopefully the Audi, mercedes, bentley, honda, Lexus, bmw, blablabla.
    Btw any news on the new bop update in the next update
     
    Artworx, Sep 25, 2020
    #31
  12. Axelc86

    Axelc86 Rookie

    A bit of love to BMW GT3? Too slow on most tracks
     
    Axelc86, Sep 25, 2020
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  13. Salvatore Amato

    Salvatore Amato Alien

    It is be supposed to be equivalent performance...
     
    Salvatore Amato, Sep 25, 2020
    #33
  14. Black_Gold_Saw

    Black_Gold_Saw Rookie

    Aggressive setup testing Jaguar vs Bentley. Bentley a quick car overall, doesnt shine out in top speed nor acceleration at all.

    After sort of maining the Jaguar a while ago, I knew where the car struggled alot with its speed.
    Today with quick testing on tracks I knew Jaguar lacked its acceleration advantage over other GT3 cars are Kyalami, Barcelona, Spa, Nurburgring & Laguna Seca

    Spa has indeed been updated. Very clear it can finally use a 6th gear and finally breaks that 260km/h barrier.

    Jaguar G3 seems to still miss it on Barcelona, Kyalami, Nurburgring and maybe Paul ricard??
    Kyalami: Jaguar wont hit 240km/h on start/finish straight. Bentley hits over 242km/h
    Barcelona: Jaguar hits 257 km/h on start/finish straight. Bentley hits 260 km/h
    Nurburgring: Jaguar hits 245km/h on start/finish straight & 243km/h on back straight. Bentley hits 248km/h on start/finish & 245km/h on back straight.
    Laguna Seca: Jaguar hits 230 km/h straight, Bentley 232 km/h.

    Seems the Jaguar hits 190-200km/h and poof, gone is the acceleration.

    EDIT: Testing done under hotlap -> Cloudy preset 11 AM
     
    Black_Gold_Saw, Sep 25, 2020
    #34
  15. Salvatore Amato

    Salvatore Amato Alien

    anyway guys it has not changed much, unless you are at the top level, i think, you will see no difference...
     
    Salvatore Amato, Sep 25, 2020
    #35
  16. Salvatore Amato

    Salvatore Amato Alien

    Excuse me bgs, what kind of data is that? What aero balance are you using? What springs? What psi? Come on...
    There are cars that are slower on high aero (among all cars set on high aero), that are fastest on low aero (among all cars set on low aero).
    Cars just have different aero maps. Top speed alone is a irrelevant, a waste of time.
     
    Salvatore Amato, Sep 25, 2020
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  17. Burnleyhome

    Burnleyhome Racer

    I'm pretty sure that there are a few mega community drivers that will test the changes in laptimes across the board as its been done it the past.
     
    Burnleyhome, Sep 25, 2020
    #37
  18. Black_Gold_Saw

    Black_Gold_Saw Rookie

    No data. Stock aggressive on both cars as mentioned.
    I like Jaguar and driven it a long time. Spa it is fixed on, clearly improvement in both acceleration and top speed.
    Other tracks as mentioned before it lacks the acceleration that the car needs to be somewhat competitive.


    Clearly if one steps in Jag you'd notice the sudden decrease in acceleration in 4th gear on those tracks.
    Its rapid from 100-200, and than its GP2 engine XD
    But it has been mentioned before. Basically noone in the game plays the Jaguar so why bother spending time on it.
    When I read its a typo and it took since release to fix it. Sad to say the least xD
     
    Black_Gold_Saw, Sep 25, 2020
    #38
  19. Felge Schneider

    Felge Schneider Hardcore Simmer

    I'm fine with any improvements, that put the field of cars tighter together.
     
    Felge Schneider, Sep 25, 2020
    #39
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  20. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    So the BoP is track-dependent?
     
    Neilski, Sep 26, 2020
    #40
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