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Botton Box for Ignition and Starter

Discussion in 'ACC Hardware Discussions' started by Team DTO, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Team DTO

    Team DTO Gamer

    I'm losing time in the pits due to the engine not starting with the starter mapped to a button on my G25 wheel. I plan on getting a button box and mapping the Ignition and Starter to 2-way safety toggles. Anybody using a similar set up with good results?
     

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  3. Seelenkrank

    Seelenkrank Racer

    im using a normal button box (ignition.com)
    these safety stuff i had on my old box but serious: take normal buttons. it is a waste of time to open the plastic part and activate the switch.
    and most games need a button that not send all the time a signal so a normal button will do the job (even keyboard will work or a external USB numpad as a very cheap button box.
     
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  4. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Racer

    I use dsd button boxes, good quality and work fine, I just leave the plastic cover up until I finish for the night.
     
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  5. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

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    Team DTO Gamer

    Last edited: Jan 10, 2020
  7. Seelenkrank

    Seelenkrank Racer

    Most games want a temporal press and not a permanent on signal. So always on is in most cases useless. And the knop will work for nearly all functions that has a +/- ( tc or abs etc).
     
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  8. Vunnible

    Vunnible Gamer

    DSD (Derek Speare Designs) uses almost all ‘momentary’ toggle switches, meaning one up press will register once, like a button, and then mechanically spring back down to the middle/neutral toggle position - without affecting the initial press. Same actuation with down as up (separately programmable though I think, so two buttons in one)

    This was a big reason I went with DSD. Most button boxes (surprisingly) use standard on/off switches that stay in either position, and like the above poster noted, are a headache in most titles - especially in ACC - as the game is inevitably going to get off-sync with the switch, so half the time ‘off’ will correspond in-game to ‘on,’ and vice-versa.
     
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  9. Vunnible

    Vunnible Gamer

    Try to find a review on any box you’re considering, because I didn’t find many with descriptions that covered what type of toggle switch was included (usually standard on/off though).
     
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  10. Tristan Cliffe

    Tristan Cliffe Simracer

    Yes. I'm using one of these - cheap but brilliant.
    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/192430846513

    I have ignition mapped to left toggle and starter to right toggle. Works really well. The covers don't really do anything as the toggles are two position (off- momentary on).

    I then map ctrl-space to the tiny button under ignition with Joy2Key for centering VR. The remaining buttons used to be for lights, wipers and so on, but they're now on the wheel and I use them for moving the seating position.
     
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  11. GRFOCO

    GRFOCO Alien

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    GRFOCO Alien

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  14. Vunnible

    Vunnible Gamer

    That is the CSW version. For whatever reason he only sells the podium mounted versions in pairs, left and right. I went with both as you can really never have enough buttons, but not all rigs may accommodate both. I figure I’ll just map more buttons than initially planned (seat movement, etc) as a luxury, not having to use the keyboard at all.

    You might email the guy and see if he’ll make an exception, but I’m sure he included ‘sets only’ in the description for a reason. You can always get the box standalone and use a ram mount to attach it to your rig. I prefer the aesthetics (and ease) of the dashboard though, as apparently you do too.
     
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  15. BrunUK

    BrunUK Alien

    No, simply not possible in ACC.

    Same applies for lights, wipers, etc.
     
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  16. Vunnible

    Vunnible Gamer

    Yes and no. You can’t program on and off functions separately in ACC currently, but you should be able to quasi work around it.

    The only way is to program both up and down toggles to do the same thing using a 3rd party software like joy2key. You’d map up-toggle and down-toggle to the same keyboard shortcut in the 3rd party software, and then map that keyboard shortcut to ignition on/off in ACC.

    This would give you to up-toggle start and down-toggle stop, albeit a bit redundantly since up-toggle would also stop, and down-toggle would also start, depending on which state you’re already in...

    That’s as close as you’ll get, and I think this is still best suited to a spring loaded toggle that sits in a neutral position when not being used.
     
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