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Car time ranking

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by WallyM, Mar 21, 2015.

  1. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Courtesy of the RSR rank, I have sorted all the AC cars by relative performance, so you can see what car matches up with what. The top 5% of PRO rank lap times are averaged across
    Spa, Mugello, Imola, Silverstone, Nurburgring GP and GT, Vallelunga Full and Classic, Monza, Magione, Zandvoort, Barcelona GP and Moto, Brands Hatch GP, Red Bull Ring and Laguna Seca.

    The lap time taken is the median of all PRO lap times at a track from the world record to 5% slower e.g. if the world record was 100 seconds, lap times from 1:40 to 1:45 (105 seconds).

    Air temp between 25 and 27 degrees, track temp is between 34 and 39.

    From AC 1.14 onwards, when wind was introduced, times are only taken from hotlap sessions with no wind.

    Because not all car/track combos have times recorded, when comparing two cars to see which one's faster, the comparison only looks at tracks where both cars have times recorded. The "Diff Prev" column in the list below shows on average how many seconds slower the car is than the previous car, where they have tracks in common.

    AC 1.7+ CAR RANK (Apr 8, 2019) - 25,970 laps counted
    Extra weighting for AC 1.12+ and 1.11 times.


    Code:
    Car,                               Diff Prev,Laps
    Ferrari F2004,                     ,         302   
    Ferrari SF70H,                     1.76,     150   
    Ferrari F138,                      1.48,     294   
    Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1,            1.76,     168   
    Ferrari SF15-T,                    1.46,     137   
    Lotus 98T,                         1.14,     69    
    Lotus Exos 125,                    1.23,     156   
    Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016,           0.96,     210   
    Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015,           2.34,     63    
    Toyota TS040 Hybrid 2014,          0.82,     95    
    Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014,      1.90,     99    
    Dallara F317,                      2.37,     209   
    Porsche 962 C Short Tail,          4.54,     186   
    Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM,          1.03,     87    
    Porsche 917/30 Spyder,             0.08,     66    
    Ferrari FXX K,                     0.05,     131   
    Porsche 962 C Long Tail,           0.29,     52    
    Mazda 787B,                        0.13,     177   
    Porsche 911 GT1-98,                0.68,     164   
    Pagani Zonda R,                    0.15,     237   
    McLaren P1? GTR,                   0.32,     156   
    Lotus 72D,                         0.66,     109   
    Ferrari 312T,                      0.10,     133   
    Maserati MC12 GT1,                 0.27,     150   
    Ferrari 599XX EVO,                 0.18,     288   
    Pagani Huayra BC,                  0.17,     68    
    Tatuus FA01,                       0.13,     979   
    Porsche 911 RSR 2017,              0.11,     545   
    McLaren 650S GT3,                  0.35,     276   
    McLaren P1?,                       0.27,     138   
    Chevrolet Corvette C7R,            0.16,     220   
    Lamborghini Huracan GT3,           0.07,     335   
    BMW Z4 GT3,                        0.01,     403   
    Ferrari 488 GT3,                   0.01,     396   
    Ferrari 458 GT2,                   0.02,     666   
    Ferrari LaFerrari,                 0.13,     173   
    Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3,             0.04,     262   
    Porsche 911 GT3 R 2016,            0.05,     540   
    Audi R8 LMS 2016,                  0.11,     224   
    Lamborghini Huracan ST,            0.01,     84    
    Nissan GT-R GT3,                   0.11,     242   
    SCG 003C,                          0.06,     153   
    Audi R8 LMS Ultra,                 0.18,     227   
    BMW M3 GT2,                        0.13,     296   
    McLaren MP4-12C GT3,               0.21,     371   
    McLaren F1 GTR,                    0.12,     148   
    Lamborghini Sesto Elemento,        0.01,     58    
    Mercedes SLS AMG GT3,              0.10,     149   
    Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017,          0.11,     832   
    Porsche 918 Spyder,                0.21,     153   
    P4/5 Competizione 2011,            0.08,     83    
    Lotus 3-Eleven,                    0.56,     167   
    Lotus Evora GTC,                   0.61,     119   
    Lotus Evora GX,                    0.09,     86    
    Pagani Huayra,                     0.16,     84    
    Praga R1,                          0.21,     195   
    Porsche 935/78 Moby Dick,          0.03,     88    
    Audi TT RS (VLN),                  0.16,     163   
    Lotus Type 49,                     0.16,     85    
    Ferrari 458 Italia Stage 3,        0.19,     180   
    Ferrari 312/67,                    0.08,     76    
    Ferrari F40 Stage 3,               1.47,     43    
    Porsche 917 K,                     0.45,     133   
    Lamborghini Aventador SV,          0.50,     75    
    Lamborghini Gallardo SL Step3,     0.16,     29    
    Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4,       0.71,     211   
    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport,      0.21,     413   
    Ferrari 812 Superfast,             0.17,     159   
    Audi Sport quattro S1 E2,          0.95,     151   
    Ferrari 488 GTB,                   0.10,     183   
    Lamborghini Gallardo SL,           0.31,     90    
    Audi TT Cup,                       0.50,     183   
    Ferrari 330 P4,                    0.04,     77    
    McLaren 570S,                      0.64,     105   
    Lotus 2-Eleven GT4,                0.06,     81    
    RUF RT12 R AWD,                    0.28,     46    
    Alfa Romeo 155 TI V6,              0.13,     241   
    Porsche 911 GT3 RS,                0.01,     408   
    KTM X-Bow R,                       0.32,     334   
    RUF RT12 R,                        0.06,     54    
    Lotus 2-Eleven,                    0.13,     141   
    Porsche 911 Turbo S,               0.03,     240   
    Mercedes-Benz 190E EVO II,         0.03,     196   
    RUF CTR Yellowbird,                0.46,     55    
    Ferrari 458 Italia,                0.02,     367   
    BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92,                0.02,     196   
    Ferrari F40,                       0.02,     100   
    Porsche 911 R,                     0.11,     234   
    Nissan GT-R NISMO,                 0.15,     151   
    McLaren MP4-12C,                   0.06,     163   
    Ford GT40,                         0.52,     82    
    BMW M235i Racing,                  0.03,     294   
    Porsche 908 LH,                    0.32,     89    
    Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack,     0.32,     65    
    Mazda RX-7 Tuned,                  0.46,     90    
    Audi R8 V10 Plus,                  0.26,     107   
    BMW M3 E30 Group A,                0.08,     131   
    Porsche Cayman GT4,                0.18,     148   
    Mercedes SLS AMG,                  0.03,     105   
    Lotus Exige V6 CUP,                0.02,     81    
    Lotus Exige 240R Stage3,           0.22,     62    
    Ferrari GTO,                       0.01,     78    
    Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo,     0.10,     100   
    Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio,    0.03,     181   
    Porsche 911 Carrera S,             0.36,     162   
    Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0,       0.15,     173   
    Lotus Evora GTE Carbon,            0.41,     48    
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Stingray,    0.14,     116   
    Porsche Panamera Turbo,            0.31,     73    
    Lotus Exige S,                     0.18,     66    
    Shelby Cobra 427 S/C,              0.31,     93    
    Lotus Evora GTE,                   0.27,     44    
    Lotus Exige Scura,                 0.12,     73    
    Porsche 718 Cayman S,              0.02,     95    
    Toyota Supra MKIV Drift,           0.09,     19    
    BMW M4 Akrapovic,                  0.20,     84    
    Lotus Exige S roadster,            0.16,     34    
    Lamborghini Countach S1,           0.05,     30    
    Maserati Alfieri,                  0.42,     47    
    Porsche 718 Boxster S,             0.13,     97    
    Lamborghini Countach,              0.07,     81    
    Porsche 718 Boxster S PDK,         0.17,     92    
    BMW M4,                            0.08,     110   
    Lotus Exige 240R,                  0.27,     90    
    BMW 1M Stage 3,                    0.44,     47    
    Mazda RX-7 Spirit R,               0.26,     95    
    Lotus Evora S Stage 2,             0.45,     21    
    Lotus Elise SC Step1,              0.13,     31    
    Mazda MX5 Cup,                     0.12,     351   
    Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale,            0.04,     105   
    Lotus Elise SC Step2,              0.15,     51    
    Lotus Evora S,                     0.04,     47    
    Maserati Quattroporte GTS,         0.44,     50    
    Alfa Romeo 4C,                     0.41,     207   
    BMW M3 E92 Step1,                  0.13,     40    
    Audi Sport quattro Step1,          0.18,     33    
    BMW M3 E92,                        0.02,     115   
    Abarth 500 Assetto Corse,          0.34,     226   
    BMW 1M,                            0.96,     162   
    BMW Z4 E89 Drift,                  0.51,     6     
    Ford Mustang 2015,                 0.83,     102   
    Nissan 370z Nismo,                 0.11,     100   
    Lotus Elise SC,                    0.35,     98    
    Porsche Cayenne Turbo S,           0.39,     67    
    BMW Z4 E89 Step1,                  0.07,     40    
    Ford Escort RS1600,                0.02,     123   
    BMW M3 E30 Drift,                  0.52,     15    
    Nissan Skyline GTR R34 V-Spec,     0.10,     120   
    Porsche Macan Turbo,               0.39,     87    
    BMW Z4 E89,                        0.15,     58    
    Toyota Supra MKIV,                 0.08,     60    
    Toyota AE86 Tuned,                 0.27,     81    
    Maserati Levante S,                0.02,     63    
    Lamborghini Miura P400 SV,         0.46,     54    
    Audi Sport quattro,                0.08,     55    
    Ferrari 250 GTO,                   0.73,     101   
    BMW M3 E92 drift,                  0.65,     11    
    Lotus Type 25,                     0.09,     69    
    BMW M3 E30 Step1,                  0.54,     66    
    BMW M3 E30,                        0.47,     125   
    Audi S1,                           1.12,     134   
    Toyota GT86,                       0.70,     173   
    Maserati 250F 12 cylinder,         0.09,     45    
    Maserati 250F 6 cylinder,          0.36,     59    
    Mazda MX5 ND,                      0.37,     170   
    Abarth 500 EsseEsse Step1,         1.21,     83    
    Giulietta QV Launch Edition 2014,  0.12,     70    
    Giulietta QV,                      0.07,     86    
    Alfa Romeo Mito QV,                0.70,     108   
    Alfa Romeo GTA,                    0.17,     102   
    Abarth 500 EsseEsse,               0.70,     119   
    Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder,          0.39,     87    
    Toyota AE86,                       3.95,     73    
    Toyota AE86 Drift,                 0.04,     9     
    Mazda Miata NA,                    3.04,     173   
    Abarth 595 SS Step 2,              13.58,    49    
    Abarth 595 SS,                     20.37,    71    
    Abarth 595 SS Step 1,              6.48,     26    
    
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2019
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  3. Thomas Gocke

    Thomas Gocke Alien

    that's interesting, thanks.

    Why is the 458 GT2 missing?

    The number of total entries per car or the number of used entries per car would be interesting along side the lap time. Maybe somehow have the popularity of the certain combo play a role in the stats, popular cars/combos will produce faster lap times, but atm I don't know how.
     
  4. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Good pickup! I don't know, but I'll look into it.
     
  5. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Fixed!

    The times are what they are. No need to overcomplicate it.
     
  6. djkostas

    djkostas Hardcore Simmer

    Thanks for your work on making this list.

    However, taking the GT3s for example, I would say it's still too soon to make any accurate assumptions.
    Many of the combos are missing some of the faster guys laps.
    Either way, still good for a ballpark estimation.

    I just hope you have already put a mark on your calendar to come back and readjust the list after some time has passed. :)
     
  7. Fear

    Fear Racer

    Great work!
    Seems odd to me, that the GTA is faster than the QV, but I suppose it's my bad. :)
    Also, some other cars are not where I expected them to be, relative to others, but maybe the data is incomplete?
     
  8. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Being a programmer, it's automated. I expect to come back after some time and press the button again, as it will only get more accurate with time and more laps.
     
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  9. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    Good effort Wally, but what would really be nice is a global ranking list of all cars on Nordschleife, Tourist and 24h.

    I miss the Leaderboard of GT6 from gtplanet > https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gt6-nürburgring-lap-time-board-2-0.317912/
    If you look at the spreadsheet under Open category you can still see my records after more than a year > https://www.dropbox.com/s/g987ytgds1s273i/GTP Nurburg 2.1.xlsx?dl=0#
    *(I find this funny, since I'm not alien material) :D

    Would great to have this on AC too, or at least RSR should have the option to select the track and list All Cars WR for that track, currently they don't have that otion. Hm, now that I think about it I should ask this in their topic.
     
  10. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    I can do that.
     
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  11. mattrick

    mattrick Racer

    This is really helpful for choosing AI opposition with rather than just using the same type.

    Muchos Gracias
     
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  12. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    Great. I just asked the question on RSR topic, let's wait and see what Andrea has to say about it.
     
  13. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    I added the Nordschleife rank to the first post.
     
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  14. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    That was quick! :eek: Thanks. :)

    P.S. Can you make it show instead of seconds, this format: HH:MM:SS:MS ?
    Of course we wont have hours, but you get my point.
     
  15. 1karl1

    1karl1 Simracer

    Great list but remember some of the car/track combinations have very little activity in terms of total drivers who've completed a clean lap as of now . For instance i'm 4th fastest in the M3 E30 at Nords tourist which sounds awesome until you see there's only 5 registered times ha ! .
     
  16. PAKFA

    PAKFA Alien

    I wouldn't worry about any of the Nords layouts, in a relative short time the leader boards will be very populated.
     
  17. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Updated!
     
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  18. It's odd that the Evora GX seems to have slightly quicker lap times than the Evora GTC. In my case, it is exactly the opposite, although that's with default setups for both cars.
     
  19. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    I've published a new list in the first post, with only times set since AC 1.1, since some cars' performances have changed in that release. There are several car/track combos with no times, so I've averaged each car's relative rank at a track, such that 1.000 is the fastest time. This is to allow for averaging across different combos with missing data.

    I will update this over time as we get more post-1.1 laps in the RSR rank.
     
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  20. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Updated 1.1 rank times.
     
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  21. norbs

    norbs Alien

    Nice work Wally.
     
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