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Cars that match each other (in laptime, pace)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Niko 3, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Niko 3

    Niko 3 Rookie

    Hey,

    I dont like races which have only one car type inculded. I think races are more exciting with different cars that match each other in speed.

    Sadly there are no predefined car categories in AC. So based on your experience, which cars match each other in laptime and pace? Which cars should race against each other?

    I think Audi R8, Ferrari 458, Porsche 911 Turbo S and Porsche 911 R could be fun. Perhaps the Ferrari is a bit too strong, but i it should depend on the track.

    Do you have any suggenstions on car combos?

    Thx guys :)
     
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  3. St3fan

    St3fan Alien

  4. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    We could use more BOP options, as community has been mentioning it quite often recently.

    IMO I don't think that many cars, especially back in the day, and back back back back in the day ever was equal in pace. Also they probably could have been really close in one track, and much different in others... Different classes of talents, different levels of reliability, unpredictable factors, engine overheating problems preventing from pushing to the limit for a long time, brakes fading away, fuel consumption, the way cars eats tires... Of course we mostly drive not more than 10laps, so a lot of things rarely matters. We made XJ13 to race against GT40, XJ13 appears to be about 1sec faster in most tracks, and a lot faster with very much of straights, but it doesn't mean it would have crossed the line first (if it actually raced).

    We could use some more BOP options, and maybe some stuff could work well for longer races.

    I'm making a rather short track now. So far these cars seems to be doing relatively close laptimes: Ferrari F40 std, BMW E30 GR.A, Toyota Supra TA, Mazda RX7 tuned, Ferrari 458S3.. but thats on particular track and it comes from me. Other drivers can do better justice, as they are able to handle more cars to the limit.

    For example ALOOG or STREETFIGHT racers. I know from ALOOG, for example, that Ferrari F40 S1, can race against F40 and Moby Dick. There are more combos. GT40 agains 908LH, there are plenty actually.
     
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  5. NightEye

    NightEye Alien

  6. Blizzier

    Blizzier Racer

    I can tell you some good combos with my experience from road cars territory:

    Lotus Exige 240R
    Lotus Evora
    Ford Mustang
    Alfa Romeo 4C
    BMW 1M
    Porsche 718 Boxter S/Cayman S
    + you can add something from Japanesse Pack, but better not Nissan 370Z Nismo which is more comparable with BMW Z4 or Lotus Elise.
    I just ran championship on various tracks on 100% difficulty and only Evora stands out, but I liked the challenge with little 240R trying to make distance in corners. It is also pretty combination for Norschleife as you need to run away from Mustang which always catch you on straight.

    Also I love Cayman GT4, Exige S and Evora GTE combo, where you can also add BMW M4.

    With new inertias Lamborghini Gallardo is fun to race with RUFs. Sadly, right now we can't force AI to use road tires. It would make some new challenges like Huayra vs. Aventador SV and also hypercars would be closer together.

    Also try to add Mercedes SLS AMG to your 911 Turbo and 911 R list. AI is quite handy with Mercedes so they are doing really good laptimes since not drifting all the way round the track.
     
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  7. djtopa

    djtopa Hardcore Simmer

    When I race with AI I always look at the power to kg ratio of a car.It would be great if we could set somehow the game to show power to kg ratio as a list of cars so we dont have to click on each car to see it.
    To me good combo is cayman s,exige s,370Z & BMW 1mS3...
     
  8. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    We have currently an experiment running with a new street car line-up consisting of what @Blizzier wrote above, but also including the Lamborghini Countach, Audi Quattro S1, BMW M4 and BMW M3 E92, all on normal, modern street tyres.
    All of these achieve very comparable times within 1-3s difference (doesn't get much better without BOP).
    We also included the Mazda RX-7 and the 370z, but both of these need a good driver to be comparable (although the Mazda is really good on the brakes, so you can gain time there).
    The Countach needs a good driver as well, but once you understood how it works, you can get very good laptimes with it.

    As long as you have Minorating AB, you're welcome to join us in the test, today at Imola. Search for server "MW Tryout" (it's the server I have linked as "Classic Blend" in my signature).
     
  9. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

  10. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Don't get me wrong, I respect his effort, but 30min to 60min unfortunately aren't enough to really judge if 2 cars can compete against each other or not.
    Looking at the list, there are quite a few changes I would make in the ranking based on the results I've seen on the Streetfight servers.

    Of course that doesn't mean that you can't use it as a basic reference for some server or custom championship, just keep in mind that in many cases you might get cars that are off-pace (in both directions) quite a bit, based on that list.
     
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  11. Niko 3

    Niko 3 Rookie

    Hey,

    thx for your input guys. I will check your links and suggentions :).
    It's noch vs AI, its for real Multiplayer.
     

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