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Generic Difficulties in getting cars back on track after a spin, main game vs online multiplayer

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by ppbucko, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    I've opened another thread about this, but this is slightly different anyway apologies if it upsets anyone.

    I took the Porsche gt4 0n practice mode on spa using tx wheels t3pa pedals, to different spots slightly of track on grass and sand. Then I've tried to recover car back to track in a sensible way and a non sensible way 1st gear lots of revs. I've then gone to the points on track same car but in multiplayer this time and the difference is amazing. Main game very easy to get back on track, multiplayer much more difficult to get back on track with the car doing 180deg spins on the spot very easily.

    Why is this and has anyone else noticed it.
     
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  3. Thomas Gocke

    Thomas Gocke Alien

    I'm sure there is another explanation than SP vs. MP. Check tire warmer, track grip, road temp and of course tire temps.
     
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  4. Yea, that is immediately what I suspect. You are running much different settings than what the MP servers you connected to are running.
     
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  5. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    I don't have a problem in sp never have any trouble, 2nd gear take it easy no problem. mp is a totally different animal altogether. when I was comparing sp vs mp I had same time of day, tyres the same temp or as close as I could get it, m/p is much more difficult and the 180 deg spins on the spot are stupid.
     
  6. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Quite likely using more aids in sp then the mp server is permitting. Traction control and stability control will have a pretty big effect on people that cant control these on their own.

    Have you got all aids turned on in SP? Try turn some off especially stability control and you will likely see the big difference.
     
  7. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Check for the obvious stuff first...like the other guys have mentioned.

    Do you have problems accessing the information that's required (track grip, temperature, tyre temperatures and wear, SC/TC/ABS settings) on the console?
     
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  8. Chavez-=LK=-0

    Chavez-=LK=-0 Rookie

    I have same problem in day one. And it's nothing a do tc or else aids. It's in the game. The feeling is like you are in ice.
     
  9. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    You just put a smile on my face, saying AC feels like on ice.
    That category is resticted to iRacing, m8.;)

    As one of the great insructors said:
    Treat the car as you would with a beautiful woman...
    Don't be hasty, and do everything with the inputs, gently and with respect.
    Smooth it out, they say...
     
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  10. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    Pumpkin please tell me you have tried it on xbox,before having a say on it, it might be different to the pc that's your used to, it doesn't feel like its on ice though it feels like your on one of those f1 tea trays they use to get the cars back it pit, and its only the multiplayer that I struggle with.
     
  11. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Insufficient answer dude, since you are up to par, physics wise!
    But some like to ramble, I know...
     
  12. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    ok have you actually tried it on xbox?
     
  13. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Do I need to?
     
  14. Chavez-=LK=-0

    Chavez-=LK=-0 Rookie

    It's only in grass !!!!
     
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  15. Chavez-=LK=-0

    Chavez-=LK=-0 Rookie

    No but if you haven't dont bother answer
     
  16. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Stay off it!
    I suppose...
     
  17. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    Yes then you could compare it to the pc version aand then come back with a well informed reply. I haven't got a single complaint on track with a wheel the game handles really well, but when trying to get the cars of grass and sand its to difficult. sp is ok multiplayer is a lot more difficult.
     
  18. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    ...
    ?

    I understand, you had a wall built on that console omissions.

    But it's gone now, so be competitive.
     
  19. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    The off track grip, like sandtraps or grass run offs, are much too grippy on the pc side!
    I would like to have that instant spin off on that ground, like for example Automobilista delivers.
     
  20. bradleyland

    bradleyland Hardcore Simmer

    OP, I thought the same for quite some time. There is one factor that can't be accounted for in settings: adrenaline.

    I know it seems crazy, and I didn't believe it for the longest time, but I found the biggest difference between SP and MP to be my state of mind. When you're in an online race, your brain chemistry is different. IMO, this is one of the big differences between mere mortals and successful, professional race car drivers.

    Here's how I finally convinced myself that it was me, and not the game.
    • Set up a practice session with the same car, track, temp, restrictions as the MP session you intend to join.
    • Make sure my HUD includes control indicators (clutch, brake, throttle)
    • Have a spin and recover with style and grace.
    • Punch the share button and save the video clip (PS4 saves 15 minutes; you'll have to setup GameDVR on XB1)
    • Join MP session
    • Make sure my HUD includes control indicators (clutch, brake, throttle)
    • Race 3 clean laps, then have a spin (because, OF COURSE @$%#!)
    • Do two donuts in the grass while gently caressing the throttle (MOTHER @$%#!)
    • Finally make it back on the tarmac and struggle to drive sensibly as pebbles rattle around in my wheel wells
    • Punch the share button and save the video clip
    After I've finished the session, it's time to review the tapes! In 100% of instances, I was mashing the throttle like an Irishman auditioning for Riverdance.

    It's only taken me a couple of months to get over the shame and embarrassment. I hold the same hope for you.
     
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  21. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Nevermind, it's over now...
    Thanks to entitlements, and over enthusiastic inputs.
    Well done guys!
     

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