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Dirt rally

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Psit, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. ShredatorFIN

    ShredatorFIN Alien

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  2. 69Harder

    69Harder Rookie

    For the love of the Rally GODS I really hope that Codemasters never ever get their hands on the WRC title !
    Codemasters have had + 30 years in the business and they still haven't got a clue on what FFB and Road Feel is !

    Codemasters should continue with what they do best !
    Arcade games and Hype !
  3. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    Wrc 8 is a very good one, CM shouldn't lay hands on that title it is on right way now
  4. 69Harder

    69Harder Rookie

    Totally agree !
  5. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek Alien

    Maybe but, CM do great at audio and they still provide much broader hardware and telemetry support options. The WRC series still has a long way to go in those areas.
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  6. 69Harder

    69Harder Rookie

    That doesn't take very long to implement and remember that CM are a much larger company !

    Codemasters on the other hand still after +30 years have no clue on what FFB and Road Feel is !
    And lets not forget their mediocre stage design with overly flat unrealistic roads which they claim to be modelled by real ones :)
  7. ShredatorFIN

    ShredatorFIN Alien

    To be honest, after comparing the FFBs of Dirt Rally 2.0 and WRC8, I prefer the FFB of Codemasters (while it's not greatest either, totally lacking for example tyre slip). WRC8 has better tarmac physics though, in Dirt Rally 2.0 it feels like they took dirt physics and added some grip, which doesn't feel right. It think the tarmac is what is mostly holding Dirt Rally 2.0 back. But the FFB was pretty lackluster in WRC8 even after tweaking. Lot of canned effects and vibrations, no real suspension feel. Also there seems to be a little moon gravity phenomena in the jumps.

    WRC8 has better stages, but still the problem remains, stages should not be possible to memorize. CM could easily expand on that stage generator concept... the direction was right. Shame to see them abandoning it.

    There's number of ways of making it better. "Brute forcing" it = adding simply more tiles. Or not relying on fixed tiles, but making it more dynamic. For example, the road tiles having camber and width slots each, so you could get the same straight/corner, but with different camber and width. While the tile is the same. Also, not binding the road to the scenery, but ability to use the same corner in Sweden, Australia and Spain, just change the terrain and flora, not the road. Totally randomized trees, rocks and such, independent of the road pattern. The "tile" should contain only the road, and everything about the terrain should be interchangeable. Library of hundreds of setpieces, like buildings, rocks, bushes, signs, ambulances etc.. and then just have several "hardpoints" in the tiles, that can contain any (or none) of them. Within logical ruleset of course, so that a house can't be right next to the road, like a rock can.

    So okay, you get the same corner, but this time there's a big rock on the inside, and the camber is reversed. Also, now there's a forest and log piles, last time there was fields and farmhouses. It would be possible to make a stage generator, that creates truly unique stages that you can never memorize. Codemasters just dropped the ball too early, and gave up the fight. When it's just big tiles, where everything is always in the same place, they become too easy to memorize visually, unless there would be like 10x more of them.

    But of course, with a killer stage generator, you wouldn't be able to sell old stages as DLC.... :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2019
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  9. ShredatorFIN

    ShredatorFIN Alien

    Yeah agree. Now it runs in VR like it should have from the start.

    The performance difference is drastic to say the least. It's funny how some people tried to argue that "it wouldn't make a big difference" etc..

    Pretty happy with DR2.0 now (they finally added the car specific transmission some time ago too). Just need to wait until the Season 3-4 content goes on sale. 30€ is too much
  10. Belgakinen

    Belgakinen Simracer

    There is some really great unnanounced stuff coming for Dirt Rally 2.0 early next year. :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019
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  11. plaid

    plaid Alien

    Dirt Rally 2.0 and the deluxe addition are 70% off on steam till the 3.12. so you need kinda hurry.

    Question: Did they fixed the shaky cockpitcams or is there a mod? It was allready a pain to watch videos.
    Also are the hardware requirements similia to DR2 so it runs fine on a 270x and a I4460? :(
  12. Belgakinen

    Belgakinen Simracer

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