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Do pop-up lights affect ae86 and miata in the game?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by jiaoshouxu, Jul 10, 2017.

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  1. jiaoshouxu

    jiaoshouxu Rookie

    Do they affect aerodynamic? I know in real life they do, but what about in game???
     
    jiaoshouxu, Jul 10, 2017
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  2. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    No, not in AC. As one of the devs said... without functional headlights/night time it would mean nobody will use the lights unless cruising around.
     
    Andy-R, Jul 10, 2017
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  3. Davemester

    Davemester Racer

    take a long straight. go down there with and withouth lights. try with against or with the wind. you'll see :)
     
    Davemester, Jul 10, 2017
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  4. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    If they had an aero effect you would see people map brake to lights for an extra air brake. :D
     
    martcerv, Jul 10, 2017
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  5. myimac

    myimac Alien

    Haha!
     
    myimac, Jul 10, 2017
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  6. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    Could get quite distracting when cadence braking :p
     
    Andy-R, Jul 10, 2017
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  7. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    it's one of the things that I'd love to get some feedback from users.
    Adding the additive aero resistance is pretty easy, I don't know if it makes sense from a game design perspective tho.. because the result would be that everybody will be going with headlights off all the time.

    opinions?

    NOTE: oh and NO.. adding an option for it is not an option :) It's either yay or nay
     
    stefanoCasillo, Jul 10, 2017
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  8. garyjpaterson

    garyjpaterson Alien

    I'd say yay, mostly for the modding ability to have an 'aero button' (that's not tied to DRS zones/brake pedal).
     
    garyjpaterson, Jul 10, 2017
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  9. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    lol that's really the wrong reason for having it tho :)
     
    stefanoCasillo, Jul 10, 2017
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  10. baboon

    baboon Alien

    Yay, do it! I always liked to just assume there is extra drag and kept those lights turned off. Love to have little details like this in a sim :)
     
    baboon, Jul 10, 2017
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  11. garyjpaterson

    garyjpaterson Alien

    Yep, absolutely.

    As for actual gameplay, I don't believe it'll make or break many races. It's not like the headlights have any useful function anyway, so turning them off to gain a couple mph is no big deal.
    For any serious racing where a small detail like that would actually effect the outcome, I'm sure a quick conversation before hand laying out the ground rules (eg. lights on for this race) will suffice for most sensible users.
     
    garyjpaterson, Jul 10, 2017
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  12. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    There aren't many places where it would matter much though. (ok, in the Miata NA maybe a bit more)

    But tracks we have, Nordschleife on Döttinger Höhe and maybe Schwedenkreuz, Monza and Mugello.

    Though the other tracks I don't think it would have a big enough effect to be worth it, or would it?
     
    Schnipp, Jul 10, 2017
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  13. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    Always err on the side of realism. I vote Yay
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Jul 10, 2017
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  14. garyjpaterson

    garyjpaterson Alien

    That's kinda the problem.
    The argument against it, is that its a small enough effect that would most likely go unnoticed, negating the effort implementing it. The argument for it is its a small enough effect that it shouldn't compromise gameplay in most cases, so go ahead and implement it :cool:

    Which is why I put forth my first point in order to sway the vote - It adds a new fun tool for modders, which is never a bad thing :)
     
    garyjpaterson, Jul 10, 2017
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  15. myimac

    myimac Alien

    Yay, just for lols.
     
    myimac, Jul 10, 2017
    #15
  16. arthur666

    arthur666 Alien

    I vote add it. I like the idea.
     
    arthur666, Jul 10, 2017
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  17. Kade

    Kade Hardcore Simmer

    This would be a mastertool for BM'ing slower drivers when overtaking them, I'd call it "inverted-Fujiwara".
     
    Kade, Jul 10, 2017
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  18. Cote Dazur

    Cote Dazur Alien

    In real life they do, yes, but to what extend?
    On the salt lake trying to break a speed record when every cent of a second counts, ok, maybe, but when lapping with a Miata, there is a million of other thing you can do before worrying if the lights are on or off, to improve your lap time.
    The additional drag is minuscule.
     
    Cote Dazur, Jul 10, 2017
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  19. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    Does anybody have some figures on how much the drag would change?
     
    Schnipp, Jul 10, 2017
    #19
  20. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Yes please. :)

    No real reason, I just think it'd be cool to take it into account.
    Also interested in how big the effect would be.
     
    Berniyh, Jul 10, 2017
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