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Dynamic Weather Discussion

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by MsportDAN, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. Luis Branco

    Luis Branco Hardcore Simmer

    I'm imagining the announcement of the DLC 2019: "for the enthusiastic simracer, including a "realistic" 24h Spa event with two options available: the condensed 16,5h version, aimed to the casual gamer :D and the full 24h version, with a mandatory pit stop of 7,5h, for the hardcore fans:D"
     
  2. CWing

    CWing Rookie


    In Tasmania it rains all the time, maybe we need a Tasmanian track
     
  3. MsportDAN

    MsportDAN Alien

    Not to bang on kunos but is a better system for working out random starting track states going to be looked at please? As stated you will always have a wet track or very little chance of it being a dry start with how it works now.

    Cheers Dan

    @Aristotelis
     
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  4. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    current 1.0.7 dev build has weather improvements, a big part is looking at the dissipation rates in daytime/sunny/warm conditions. Without more than just the simulation runs I can't tell much, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't significantly change how often you meet a wet track with blue sky during a warm day.

    Current experimental server (link) already runs this, though it's a special configuration with lots of rain/wet pronounciation. I think we'll also see a server preview soon(tm), so we can collect experience before we upgrade official servers including CP.
     
  5. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    According to the Motor Racing Circuits Database, there are only 5 circuits in Tasmania of which only two are still operational.
    http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/Australia/index.html

    but tbh, both don't look that interesting (watched some onboards on YT). Maybe for classic racing, but not for GT3s.

    Apart from that, I think that both Spa and Nürburgring have shown often enough that they can deliver interesting and challenging racing in the rain. ;)
    On both circuits, rain is rather common.
     
  6. Cornflex

    Cornflex Gamer

    Still the same with 1.07. Cannot see any changes in starting track conditions. Almost wet all the time. :(
     
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  7. MsportDAN

    MsportDAN Alien

    yep just tried 107, 99% chance of a wet track even in blazing sun every race.. Yes the system needs to work differently.
     
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  8. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Running 1.07 beta build and server it seems wet weather is not as extreme in a good way. At first it seemed just visual as it was much harder to see wet roads beacuse there is much less reflection on the track surface. Not sure if by design or bug the less reflective visuals.

    It also seemed more useable with heavier rain over 20 minutes not flooding the track. Maybe it is the server now taking into account the cloud and rain settings, avoiding the massive red flag style rain from ealier server builds.

    This is likely why the surface is not as reflective because it wasnt as wet but slicks were nowhere near as good when the track looked not that wet.
     
  9. PaulPunkGTX

    PaulPunkGTX Gamer

    I kinda like the rain, but I'd really like way more heavy rain. That kind of rain, which causes massive chaos. I would at least like to have it possible. Should maybe happen 1/100 times it rains heavily. Otherwise not sure if the problem is on my side, but I can't see dry lines on the track, when the track drys up.
     
  10. Cornflex

    Cornflex Gamer

    I really think driving in heavy rain is nearly impossible. I use a Logitech G25 wheel and have full TC and ABS (both set to 11) enabled and it is not possible to keep up with the AI even on the lowest setting without loosing control (driving the Porsche right now) I do not have activated additional traction control in the option settings. It should be possible to finish a single lap without spinning. And if the car spins it should be possible to regain control of the car. Right now I never have the feeling of controlling the car when in heavy rain conditions.
     
  11. MsportDAN

    MsportDAN Alien

    And what we need to remember is races get red flagged if extreme rain or wet surfaces. So would like to see a storm being a red flag situation. Maybe happens once In a. Season.
     
  12. Cornflex

    Cornflex Gamer

    Did another test drive today. Racing in thunderstorm at Monza with the Black Swan Porsche. I fitted the wets and set TC and ABS to 11. Even more so I added 100% of traction via the assist options. I did not even manage to complete a 20 minute race against the AI on the lowest level without crashing. There is definitely something wrong with racing in the wet. The car looses grip without warning. What am I doing wrong? Is there another setup magic trick I do not know?
     
  13. Axel Vogelsang

    Axel Vogelsang Simracer

    The direction of the wind is not indicated by the commercial flags yet, or is it??? ;)
     
  14. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    Thunderstorm is a red flag condition, not been driven in real life.
    There are puddles and rivers on track, aquaplaning is spinning you around.
    This is normal and "nothing wrong with racing in the wet" .
     
  15. Cornflex

    Cornflex Gamer

    ??? And why did they put this in the game? Why can the ai handle such conditions? This doesn‘t make any sense to me. I‘m playing offline championship mode and I am stuck at Monza now because the racing conditions are undriveable.
     
  16. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    People would request them to put it in if it were not there.
    And it's interesting to try it out just to see how far you can go.
    btw, it is possible to drive in thunderstorm conditions (did so in a race around Spa) if you know where you'll get aqua planing (which you'll figure out after 2-3 laps).
    Even then it's a bit of a gamble, so I wouldn't recommend.

    btw, during the 24h Spa a few weeks ago they did drive in such conditions, with drivers reporting to have aquaplaning on the Kemmel straight at 80-120 kph.
    For good reasons the race was red flagged at some point though.
    Well, they can't, at least not fully.
    During my race around Spa in thunderstorm conditions the AI went off road at Fagnes several times.

    But since they have (literally) lightning fast reflexes, they can handle some things better than we can.
    Still I tend to agree that the performance of the AI under thunderstorm conditions is a bit too good.
     
  17. earlyapex

    earlyapex Simracer

    We still have the problem of the track and ambient temps always matching if you choose to enable random weather in the custom preset.
     
  18. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Mmmm I don't see this here. When you choose random weather, you often get cloudy sky and obviously this might produce equal or almost equal ambient and track temperatures.
    But when it produces a less cloudly sky, the temperatures are different. Also very important the time of the day you're looking. Early in the morning or late evening again produce much more similar ambient and track temperatures.
     
  19. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    I found a sever that absolutely nailed Spa. There was a nice soft drizzle at the start of the session which slowly increased making the slick tyre on the limit by race end. What a lot of fun :cool:
     
  20. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    Sounds to me like... "Chris Hayes Spa training server"
    But some moaning why they can't change tires... hihihi
     
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