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PHYSICS ECU maps implementation

Discussion in 'ACC Blog' started by Aristotelis, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Agreed, is there any effect on engine braking for example.
     
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  2. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    Throttle maps shouldn't take any effect on engine brake.

    It only changes the responsiveness of the electronic throttles.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2019
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  3. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    So ECU/throttle maps have absolutely no effect on mixture and ignition curves, for more examples ?
     
  4. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    Not throttle mapping.
    Fuel maps would have influence.
     
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  5. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    As would ECU maps, the OP.

    The ECU pretty much controls and monitors everything to do with the running of an engine.

    From monitoring sensors, to controlling throttle opening, (assuming fly by wire throttle control), fuel mixture, ignition timing etc.
     
  6. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

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  7. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Dude, the original post was NOT just about throttle mapping.

    It included other parameters also.

    Your statement,... "Throttle maps shouldn't take any effect on engine brake."

    So you know for a fact that the closing of the throttle is NOT controlled by any of the ECU maps , and therefor how the engine braking is effected when dropping the throttle?

    Including cam shaft position, which could also have an effect on engine braking.

    Imsa is NOT the series in question.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2019
  8. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    Please not that aggressive.
    Why have i putted "throttle" on bold letters?
    And these links inkl. "imsa" were just a sample, feel free to download every catalogue and every single tech sheet and read them all.
     
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  9. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    You didn't respond to my last post.


    "Your statement,... "Throttle maps shouldn't take any effect on engine brake."

    So you know for a fact that the closing of the throttle is NOT controlled by any of the ECU maps , and therefor how the engine braking is effected when dropping the throttle?

    Including cam shaft position, which could also have an effect on engine braking."

    You are the one making definitive statements, but not backing them up, I am simply asking questions.

    Until then.
     
  10. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    For me, it doesn´t make sense to discuss with you, as i don´t wanted to pick a fight and imo it seems, you mix up different Maps or for you its all the same.
    I wouldn´t use these two words as one is the other, so I wouldn´t with torque map and fuel map.
    My Statement was already, that the throttle map only has effect on the responsiveness of the pedal, linear or less aggressiv, for example. And I used the word "shouldn´t", not the words "for a fact".

    And this sentence:
    has nothig to do, with anything I wrote before or ever will.
    You´re twisting things up here.
    Way too agressive.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2019
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  11. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Once again you continue to ignore the OP is about ECU maps, all aspects.

    You introduced singling out throttle mapping, I did not.

    One more time, are you saying that ECU mapping has no effect on how much engine braking, and in what manner it occurs when the throttle is closed ???

    I'm done here responding to you, we have already put a damper on a VERY informative post by Aristotelis, must piss him off royally.

    My apologies.
     
  12. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Simracer

    No, Karsten Beoulve did, you replied with his quotation, which was singling out throttle mapping and no other ecu mappings at all. Please stop twisting my words.
    Again, way to aggressive.
     
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  13. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    OK, I see your point of view, you assumed I was talking just about throttle mapping, when I was replying, maybe not very well,... to the OP in general, which includes all aspects of ECU mapping.

    I was also recalling, to myself, an earlier thread about how there appeared to be less engine braking in this series, than GT3 in AC1.

    Again, apologies.
     
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  14. Ciccina2016

    Ciccina2016 Simracer

    it has to be...
    it must be...
    no pressure :p
     
  15. XzzDSA

    XzzDSA Racer

    Is it possible that we could get a visual representation of the different throttle maps?
    Alternatively I suppose we'll just find it in telemetry later, but it would be nice not having to test 8+ maps for 10+ cars :D
     
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  16. trutya

    trutya Simracer

    just one question:
    when the damage model will be implemented, will there be higher risk of an engine failure/overheating when someone uses qualy mix all around? at the moment we are able to do full races with the sharpest engine map as the fuel can last for 60-65 min, but in real life i don't think it's the case.
     
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  17. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    GTR 2018 has ECU Map = 0. I presume this is the fastest?
     
  18. Jarkko Torvinen

    Jarkko Torvinen Simracer

    I settings preset its 0, but while driving it is 1, 1-4 available.. bug?
     
  19. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

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  20. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

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