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Energy levels after racing in ACC

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Tobus, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. Tobus

    Tobus Racer

    Ok, this may be a weird topic, might be a technical one taking into account visual hardware, but here it is:

    I love racing in ACC, although I'm not keen on setup stuff, so racing on aggressive setups with only tire pressures managed to get proper pressures and temps. I can hold my own against AI at 89-90% and in multiplayer generally happy with finishing in the top half of the roster.

    After a good stint racing of 1 to 2 hours, I'm DEAD TIRED. My eyes feel burning and I could litterally fall asleep on the spot. I don't have this on any other games, intense as they may be (I can go Left4Dead or TeamFortress2 for hours and not have any energy dips). I have played around with some graphical settings but up to this point without much effect.

    Can anyone attest to this and found something in graphical settings to alleviate? Or is it just my body trying to compensate my lacking skills with pure bodily energy ;-) ?
     
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  3. Poloman

    Poloman Racer

    Well its normal to feel tired after a good 2hour session,especially if you are close racing.

    For me after moving to DDwheel and VR, an hour stint feels like i am racing for real, and having done 4hrs of a 9hr race felt extremely exhausting.
     
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  4. C#27

    C#27 Gamer

    Simracing can be quite demanding, both physically and mentally. Depending on your experience with simracing titles, getting tired most likely has little to do with graphical settings. Of course, if you have to opt for low graphic settings, then maybe your eyes might struggle after a while. But medium to high settings should usually be fine. If you are running VR that might be different, I don't have experience there.

    What is usually more demanding is processing the inputs we get to keep the cars on the limit. In most cases we are limited to visual inputs and the force feedback from the wheel. If you are using a controller, then you are mostly limited to visual inputs only. These visual inputs demand your eyes and mental capacity. A good force feedback setup, but more importantly experience in understanding the force feedback intuitively, will lower the mental load while driving from my experience. In general it can be said that with experince you will feel more comfortable and won't get tired as quickly. But when you are starting out and are still learning and trying to understand all the information thrown at you it can be quite tiring. I am able to go 3h straigth without big issues, but I shure need a shower afterwards.
     
  5. mikocchio

    mikocchio Gamer

    Indeed ACC is a demanding activity.
    You could try and wear lightly tinted sunglasses ("driving glasses"). I use my photochromic ones that, being inside, are still sligthly darker than normal clear prescription glasses. During the pauses, point your sight out of the window towards the horizon, to rest from near focussing.
    As for muscle fatigue, i advise you to train in smaller chunks (e.g. half an hour of driving, ten minutes relax and stretching, repeat). Verify that your seating position is correct (seating close to the wheel with legs correctly stretched helps). If you can, train your calves (standing raises, rope jump) and/or jog (interval training).
    After some months of this routine, I am still tired after a long session, but not exhausted, and the day after I am ready to drive again.
     
  6. marph

    marph Gamer

    This is also something I experienced especially having VR and motion. Even after a intense 20 minute race my body starts to swet and it feels like I have done hard work.
    Its a fantastic simulator and if you always want to drive on the edge of grip you really have to work on the steeringwheel. I found myself strengthening my stomachmuscles when driving through eau rouge for example :-D
    Physical fitness is definitely a point.
     
  7. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    From my own experience: If you are still "struggling" with the driving, the car/the track itself, it is really a challenge. Recently I did a race against the AI in Zandvoort - it was 60min of fun, joy, everything in flow - hardly exhausted.
     
  8. Turk

    Turk Alien

    I count ACC as exercise. I still get adrenaline dumps at the start of online races, I haven't been able to spend enough time in sim for it to become mundane yet. I'm racing every fortnight at best. I'd spend about 3 to 6 hours in sim when I get the chance over a weekend.

    During a race I'm sweating, by the end of a session I'm sore, my shoulders are sore, I can feel that I've been pumping the brake peddle. It's a lot of mental drain though, concentrating that much for that long turns your brain into a power hog. Like any computational device if you use it a lot it burns through a lot of energy. Every time you go through a corner your brain is processing whether you did it good or bad and how you can do it better next time.
     
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  9. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    While it is phyiscally demanding, I have the effect that I don't feel exhausted until I'm 100% dead. I recall every single endurance race (even a 12h one) where I'm clearly not ready to hand over the car after my stint, or double stint.

    Obviously it's important to feel good, and imo the consistency is the key component. Be able to drive without major errors for 2 hours isn't something that comes for free, but is so rewarding.
     
  10. Tobus

    Tobus Racer

    Thanks for your comments, guys. I deliberately didnt mention my specs to not "steer" your answers, as they are top and I drive with maxed out settings. I dont use VR, but do use trackir.
    The tiredness is mostly in the eyes. I can get hot and a bit sweaty, but the eyes are the most present after 1hr or more racing.
     
  11. Guidofoc

    Guidofoc Alien

    My experience is that if I prepare well for a multiplayer race (doing 2-3 training races against AI to learn the track and basic setup) then when the actual race comes i am only focusing on racing instead of driving and that is less "draining".
     
  12. chksix

    chksix Hardcore Simmer

    I feel the lack of water after a while. Can't drink in VR due to the HMD blocking the bottle. I'm going to get a Camelbak water container with hose which I can grab while driving.
     
  13. Cirith Ungol

    Cirith Ungol Simracer

    I had a 2 hour race last week at Spa, I can tell you that when you push for 2 hours and you have 3 track limits warning after 20min of racing your mind is completly empty after the race. :D And that's a great thing I feel, finishing the race without any incident and with a good pace definitely felt like an achievement. :p
     
  14. Milthael

    Milthael Rookie

    It definitely sounds like something is off to me when you describe it mainly as burning eyes. Long sessions in ACC can be very exhausting indeed, probably a bit more than FPS gaming due to the extra physical involvment of the body, but if you don't feel your eyes burning after hours of playing other games I don't think you should feel such a noticeable difference in just the eyes so do take care of your eyes and try to find a solution.

    I remember when I started simracing I got fatigued eyes and tensed my forehead a lot while driving, this disappeared immediately after adjusting my FOV in the games. Try adjusting your FOV (increase and decresase, not necessarily the technically correct FOV) and drive for a while and pay extra attention to how your eyes feel while driving.
    Another thing that comes to my mind is the framerate, can you check so you don't have a very low framerate while driving? A very low framerate could be extremely taxing for the eyes (just think about how incredibly annoying it is to watch a flickering screen).
     
  15. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    I have glasses specifically specked and anti glare for my computer use.

    Has helped me.
     
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  16. GONKO

    GONKO Racer

    Racing in ACC is very demanding indeed. It requires FULL concentration and all of your attention.
    After a race I sometimes get up out of the seat frazzled, zoned out as I walk over to make a coffee or something. I wouldn't have it any other way lol.
     
  17. HomieFFM

    HomieFFM Racer

    I also noticed that ACC is more demanding on the eyes. Maybe it has something to do with the general lower framerate and the blurriness of the unreal engine.
    When I switch to rF2 everything looks sharper in a way and it feels so smooth and much more easy on the eyes. Just my experience.

    Still having fun in both sims.
     
  18. Nev Roberts

    Nev Roberts Racer

    I have to wear glasses so my optometrist had a pair made for the precise distance of my eyes from my monitor. I found it very helpful.
     
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  19. Luis Branco

    Luis Branco Alien

    Racing in GT4 league, with 1-hour practice, 20 min qualify and 1-hour race and, usually, wishing the races could be a bit longer (+30 min).
    But, as others have said, ACC is fabulous to take work out of mind, it's a very good mind cleansing. :D:D
     
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  20. Georg Siebert

    Georg Siebert Simracer

    - track km for muscle memory so you have left over mental capacity to relax
    - physical training (streching before & after the race, running, cycling, swimming, etc)
    - drink during the race (!) (water, orange/apple juice, coffee only for sprint races, NO SODA)
    - nutrition (vegs/fruit/bananas, energy drinks/bars, carbohydrates for endurance, if deficient: vitamin D suppliment (recommended are 20 µg/day (90% of vitamin D is converted through the skin with UVB light, only 10% through nutrition, sitting indoors during quarantine wouldn't have helped))
    - display color temperature correction to 3400K (Monitor settings, in GPU drivers, Win10 tool, f.lux)
    - eliviate eye sore (focus/eye movement excercise, regular screen breaks, Berberil N drops)

    Seek professional advice for anything medicine related.
     
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  21. Turk

    Turk Alien

    These two posts are probably a good indication that it would probably be a good idea to go to an optician as it could just be an eye condition that's easily corrected by glasses.
     
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