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[Forza Motorsport 7] General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'XBox One Discussions' started by ZX636, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    Its the braking physics and feel that needs improving. On the controller the cars brake ok on the wheel you go past 80% brake pressure and the car turns into a magic carpet.
  2. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    AC has better physics and ffb than any other game on console, but forza is so far ahead of AC as a game you can't even compare them. AC and the save issues on xbox after 10 months is becoming a joke that needs sorting out. The private lobbies need a host with full host control over room.
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  3. Gurkensepp

    Gurkensepp Racer

    Hm, i dont think its a brakes problem. Its more because the front end has grip and than no grip. And the no grip phase is endless and you cant feel it when the front tires have grip again. In ac you can feel the front wheel grip very good. in FM not...

    Youre right. But with wheel i had more fun in assetto Corsa. Lets hope FM7 will have better FFM (it doesnt have to be like in real live or like AC) than in FM6.
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  4. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

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  5. ZX636

    ZX636 Hardcore Simmer

    Car list so far (Note that Toyota road cars won't be in for unknown reasons):

    1968 Abarth 595 esseesse

    2001 Acura Integra Type-R
    2002 Acura RSX Type-S
    2017 Acura NSX

    1934 Alfa Romeo P3
    1950 Alfa Romeo 158
    1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA
    1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2
    1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale

    2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
    2016 Ariel Nomad

    1958 Aston Martin DBR1
    1960 Aston Martin DB4 Zagato
    1964 Aston Martin DB5
    1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
    1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
    2006 Aston Martin #007 AMR DBR9
    2008 Aston Martin DBS
    2010 Aston Martin One-77
    2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato
    2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
    2013 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S
    2016 Aston Martin Vantage GT12
    2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
    2017 Aston Martin DB11

    1939 Auto Union Type D

    2014 BAC Mono

    1959 BMW 507
    1957 BMW Isetta 300

    1992 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport
    2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

    1953 Chevrolet Corvette
    1957 Chevrolet Bel Air
    1960 Chevrolet Corvette
    1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 409
    1966 Chevrolet Nova SS
    1967 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396
    1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
    1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
    1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396

    1969 Datsun 2000
    1970 Datsun 510

    1967 Dodge Coronet WO23
    1968 Dodge Dart HEMI Super Stock
    1969 Dodge Charger Daytona HEMI
    1969 Dodge Charger R/T

    2013 Donkervoort D8 GTO

    1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta
    1952 Ferrari 375
    1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial
    1957 Ferrari 250 California
    1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
    1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
    1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
    1963 Ferrari 250 LM
    1964 Ferrari F158 F1
    1967 Ferrari #24 Ferrari Spa 330 P4
    1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4
    1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
    1971 Ferrari #2 Ferrari Automobili 312 P
    1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312T2
    1982 Ferrari #71 Ferrari France 512 BB/LM
    1982 Ferrari #72 N.A.R.T. 512 BB/LM
    1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
    1987 Ferrari F40
    1989 Ferrari F40 Competizione
    1990 Ferrari #1 641
    1992 Ferrari 512 TR
    1994 Ferrari F355
    1995 Ferrari F50
    1996 Ferrari F50 GT
    1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
    1998 Ferrari #30 MOMO Doran Racing F333 SP
    2002 Ferrari 575M
    2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
    2003 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
    2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
    2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
    2008 Ferrari California
    2009 Ferrari 458
    2010 Ferrari 599 GTO
    2010 Ferrari 599 XX
    2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 GTC
    2011 Ferrari FF
    2012 Ferrari F12
    2013 Ferrari 458 Speciale
    2013 Ferrari LaFerrari
    2014 Ferrari #51 AF Corse 458 GTE
    2014 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 GTLM
    2014 Ferrari California T
    2014 Ferrari FXX K
    2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
    2015 Ferrari F12tdf

    1969 Fiat Dino 2.4 Coupe
    1952 Fiat 8V Supersonic

    1932 Ford De Luxe Five-Window Coupe
    1940 Ford De Luxe Coupe
    1946 Ford Super Deluxe Station Wagon
    1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
    1965 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
    1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
    1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302

    2012 Hennessey Venom GT

    1951 Holden 50-2106 FX Ute

    1967 Honda RA300
    1970 Honda S800
    1984 Honda Civic CRX Mugen
    1986 Honda Civic Si
    1991 Honda CR-X SiR
    1992 Honda NSX-R
    1994 Honda Prelude Si
    1997 Honda Civic Type R
    2000 Honda Prelude Type SH
    2004 Honda Civic Type-R
    2005 Honda NSX-R
    2007 Honda Civic Type-R
    2009 Honda S2000 CR
    2014 Honda Civic Si
    2016 Honda Civic Type R

    2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
    2012 Infiniti IPL G Coupe
    2014 Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge
    2015 Infiniti Q60 Concept

    1959 Jaguar Mk II 3.8
    1961 Jaguar E-type S1
    1956 Jaguar D-Type
    1954 Jaguar XK120 SE

    1945 Jeep Willys MB

    1968 Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye 1.6 HF

    2011 Koenigsegg Agera
    2015 Koenigsegg One:1
    2016 Koenigsegg Regera

    2013 KTM X-Bow R

    1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
    1986 Lamborghini LM 002
    1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
    1988 Lamborghini Jalpa
    1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
    2008 Lamborghini Reventón
    2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
    2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
    2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
    2013 Lamborghini Veneno
    2014 Lamborghini #14 GMG Racing LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
    2014 Lamborghini #18 DragonSpeed Gallardo LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
    2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4
    2014 Lamborghini Urus
    2015 Lamborghini #63 Squadra Corse Huracán LP620-2 Super Trofeo
    2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP750-4 SV
    2016 Lamborghini Centenario LP 770-4

    1956 Lotus Eleven

    1966 Ford Lotus Cortina

    1967 Lotus Type 49
    1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
    1976 Lotus #5 Team Lotus 77
    1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
    1999 Lotus Elise Series 1 Sport 190
    2000 Lotus 340R
    2002 Lotus Esprit V8
    2005 Lotus Elise 111S
    2009 Lotus 2-Eleven
    2011 Lotus Evora S
    2012 Lotus Exige S
    2016 Lotus 3-Eleven

    1939 Maserati 8CTF
    1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Pininfarina Berlinetta
    1957 Maserati 300 S
    1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
    1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
    2004 Maserati MC12
    2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
    2014 Maserati #35 M.Calamia Swiss Team MC Trofeo
    2014 Maserati Ghibli S Q4

    1972 Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II
    1973 Mazda RX-3
    1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
    1990 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
    1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    1997 Mazda RX-7
    2005 Mazda Mazdaspeed MX-5
    2010 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
    2010 Mazda MX-5 Super20
    2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
    2013 Mazda MX-5
    2013 Mazda MX-5 Cup
    2016 Mazda MX-5

    1966 McLaren M2B
    1969 McLaren #4 McLaren Cars M8B
    1976 McLaren #11 Team McLaren M23
    1988 McLaren #12 Honda McLaren MP4/4
    1993 McLaren F1
    1997 McLaren F1 GT
    2011 McLaren #59 McLaren GT 12C GT3
    2011 McLaren 12C
    2013 McLaren P1
    2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
    2015 McLaren 570S Coupé
    2015 McLaren 650S Coupe
    2015 McLaren P1 GTR

    1939 Mercedes-Benz W154
    1954 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupé
    1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR
    1967 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL

    1949 Mercury Coupe

    1965 MINI Cooper S

    1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
    1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    1997 Mitsubishi GTO
    1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
    2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR
    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR

    1966 Nissan Silvia
    1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
    1971 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
    1973 Nissan Skyline H/T 2000GT-R
    1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
    1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
    1993 Nissan 240SX SE
    1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
    1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
    1994 Nissan Silvia K's
    1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
    1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
    1998 Nissan R390
    1998 Nissan Silvia K's Aero
    2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
    2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
    2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
    2010 Nissan 370Z
    2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition
    2014 Nissan Juke Nismo RS
    2015 Nissan IDx NISMO
    2016 Nissan Titan Warrior Concept
    2017 Nissan GT-R

    2010 Noble M600

    1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442

    1968 Opel GT

    2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
    2010 Pagani Zonda R
    2012 Pagani Huayra
    2016 Pagani Huayra BC

    1958 Plymouth Fury

    1965 Pontiac GTO
    1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    1969 Pontiac GTO Judge

    1955 Porsche 550A Spyder
    1957 Porsche 356A Speedster
    1960 Porsche 718 RS 60
    1970 Porsche 914/6
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
    1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
    1987 Porsche #17 Porsche AG 962C
    1987 Porsche #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
    1987 Porsche 959
    1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
    1993 Porsche 928 GTS
    1995 Porsche 911 GT2
    1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion
    2003 Porsche Carrera GT
    2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
    2008 Porsche #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
    2011 Porsche #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
    2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
    2012 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0
    2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
    2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S
    2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
    2015 Porsche #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
    2015 Porsche Macan Turbo
    2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
    2017 Porsche #1 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
    2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo
    2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS

    2011 Radical SR8 RX
    2015 Radical RXC Turbo

    2004 Saleen S7

    1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe

    2016 Spania GTA Spano

    1980 Subaru BRAT GL
    1990 Subaru Legacy RS
    1996 Subaru SVX
    1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STI
    2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
    2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
    2005 Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
    2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
    2011 Subaru WRX STI
    2013 Subaru BRZ
    2015 Subaru WRX STI

    2007 Toyota Hilux Arctic Trucks AT38

    2005 TVR Sagaris

    2015 Ultima Evolution Coupe 1020

    1963 Volkswagen Beetle
    1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe
    1967 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia

    1967 Volvo 123 GT

    2016 W Motors Lykan HyperSport

    2016 Zenvo TS1
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  6. skells22

    skells22 Rookie

    There has also been a track list, Maple Valley is back
  7. Gurkensepp

    Gurkensepp Racer

    Yes, and Mugello and Suzuka. :)
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  8. Stang69

    Stang69 Rookie

    Really enjoy Forza Motorsport 6, not the Horizon series, (what a waste of beautiful cars!!)
    It may not be this and it may not be that but I really enjoy collecting and modifying the older cars, a couple that I have in the real world. (Lotus Cortina and 69 Mustang).
    I can set up a Lotus Cortina with harder front end and softer rear like Colin Chapman (Mr Lotus) did and then drive it feeling the same sort of ''chuckability'' the real one has.
    Following that I can watch some ''video'' of this historically great car careening about on three wheels just like Jim Clark in 1963, '64 and '65. Awesome.
    That is really fascinating stuff to drive and watch, give it a try. Add horsepower to taste, the car can absorb one hell of a lot of it and remain very drivable, just like the real thing. Seriously. One of the most ''fun'' cars in the game, lower it, do what I said earlier, i.e. hard front, soft rear. Give it some more grunt (Hot 4 or V6 better than V8) and better brakes. Give her heaps!

    And one important thing for me is that I know it will work, straight away, without the need for patches, without having to go off line, without having to pray to the Xbox gods etc

    I bought AC again today for the second time (took the first one back many months ago due to all the hassles).
    I really wanted this to work for the Lotus 79 and Porsche 917, waited for hours while it installs itself and then finally.....

    It won't even friggen well start, what a joke.
    I'll persevere with some advice from here I hope but what is going on with these developers, really....

    It just doesn't seem right to me. Must be my age....
    I also enjoy Project Cars but miss the modifying and personalising as well as the collecting of FM.

  9. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    It's been playing up the last 3 weeks. The game has more cars and tracks and private lobbies, but that's about it. All the major bugs are still present and the fps still isn't great.
  10. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    Forza 7 demo coming sept 19th
  11. Gurkensepp

    Gurkensepp Racer

    And you will be able to play it. Always!!!

    Hope we can do some races again together :)
  12. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    There all getting forza 7, just drop into party chat or game, we never use invites.
  13. mi6_

    mi6_ Rookie

    I've been a huge fan of Forza Motorsport over the years and have owned every single game in the Motorsport series. Unfortunately the game keeps being ruined by the Horizon series with less simulation and more arcade features added in every version. After reviewing the 700+ car list I was dissapointed by many of the past cars that didn't make the cut (ex. Bentley Speed 8, 2015 Camaro Z/28 etc.) and the virtual lack of no new cars (like the only one being a 2017 Porsch GT2 RS). I cancelled my pre-order as soon as I heard how the dynamic weather works. Your slick Racing tires "magically" just turn into treaded rain tires when it gets wet on the track. How could they have ignored pit stops for wet tires in this game? Unbelievable! It's a crucial part of Racing and for it to not be included in a game with "Motorsport" in the title is blasphemy.

    So despite all the ongoing problems of AC, I still have more fun playing this (and probably PC2). No grinding to get all the cars and the game has proper wheel support and FFB. Goodbye Turn 10!
  14. Charms Alarm

    Charms Alarm Rookie


    [My G920 is setup near my original 2013 X1, so I downloaded the demo to that console. While it was downloading, I spent an hour or so playing AC on the X1.]

    The Bottom Line: A noticeable, and much needed, improvement over previous Forza releases, but still no AC replacement.

    _ _ _
    I spent about an hour playing it. It feels a lot like PCARS 1, but with great out-of-the-box FFB. I went into the settings and changed the degrees of rotation to 900, and I was good to go. Coming right from AC, the FFB strength feels similar.

    Unsurprisingly, the handling is subpar in comparison to AC. The demo cars felt more lively than other Forzas, but still not as realistic as they could be. You won't be confusing this with Need For Speed, but you won't mistake it for rfactor either. The cars are very enjoyable to drive, but somewhat frustrating to have to fight them all the time. Grip feels more like an on/off switch. The brakes seemed to fade very quickly. (Once it began raining, the GTR/nord demo turned into an ice stage; no grip, no brakes, all drift.) It was difficult for me to smoothly transition between corners. Aside from those issues, the game feels similar to PCARS1.

    Much like PCARS, I feel the game relies too heavily on gimmicks, like camera shake and dynamic weather. It feels a bit unnatural. Cool to see and hear, but I would dial it back a bit.

    The driver outfits are neat. I only used the cop outfit because I've spent too many years playing NFS. The graphics are pretty good on the original x1. The environments look more detailed than AC (but I think the resolution dropped on the GTR/nord track). The sound is great. The HUD is clean. Overall, it is looking like a well-rounded racing game. However, I'll be sticking with AC for a little longer. The last time I checked the total price for Forza7, it was a couple hundred dollars, so I will probably be waiting a very long time before I pick it up.
    - - -

    From this demo alone, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it over PCARS 1. I'll play it a little more to get a better feel for the grip and brakes, but it's another quality Forza title, and I wouldn't feel any regret if I pre-ordered it.
  15. Gurkensepp

    Gurkensepp Racer

    A couple hundred dollars? 100 dollar if remember.

    FFB is bad when you drive with default settings. Very very bad. I change settings and now its enjoyable. Except the Porsche...

    My settings:
    FFB Scale: 100
    Steering Sens: 540
    Steering Lin: 50
    FFB Understeer: 0
    FFB Min force: 80
    Wheel Damper:0
    Center spring:0

    On wheel (Fanatec csl elite)
    Sen: Aut
    FF: 31
    Sho: 30
    ABS: 99
    DRI: off
    BRK: 50
    Fei: 0
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  16. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Totally agree.
    The Porsche felt terrible compared to the Nissan. I really struggled to drive it.
    Without any assists on it I just kept sliding all over.
    No where near the feeling of AC and PC1.

    Also the AI OMG!! its like bumper cars

    Your wheel settings has made it feel loads better. Thanks!!
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2017
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  17. Gurkensepp

    Gurkensepp Racer

    Hm, on pro difficulty the AI is not bad. I will give the another try today. I hope i can stream it today, yesterday i was not able :-\
  18. Charms Alarm

    Charms Alarm Rookie

    "A couple hundred dollars? 100 dollar if remember."
    Forza is typically on a 2yr cycle, right?

    So, Ult. Ed. is $100. Car pass ($30) is only 6 months, and includes monthly car packs. Car pass does not include ALL future DLC.

    First 6 months = $100
    Next 18 months = $30 x 3 = $90

    Assuming they don't release any track packs or non-car pass DLC, the game is nearly $200. However, if they do release track packs or theme DLC, the game will be a couple hundred dollars.

    I never said you shouldn't buy the game, but let's not pretend it is inexpensive (for a console racing game).

    [X1X pre-order is live! (again)]
  19. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    I tried the PC demo.
    Physics are simcade.
    FFB is not that bad though, it's actually better than PCars2....(oh the shame) :rolleyes:.

  20. ppbucko

    ppbucko Hardcore Simmer

    The ffb on forza 7 on TX wheel is the best its ever been. If your in a private lobby with mates and want a trouble free nights racing, then forza is the only game which offers this.
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