Gravel, mud and others lost surfaces

Hi Kunos, Do you plan create "physics, tyre model,..." for this kind of surfaces in AC or at least is it on "maybe to do list"? Ok we have Dirt rally but it´s not accurate enough around physics and Richard B. rally is "little" out of date.

In old "Look What The Cat Hacked In" Stefano did mention things about rally and I can´t complain on his explanation. AC is racing sim, rally is different but cars like Audi Quattro S1 and upcoming Toyota Celica forced me to ask...what if?

 

and that was kunos looking into the subject, the outcome is/was that there are no plans for such additional surfaces. I think we all hope that could change too.

 

For AC1 I'd say it's impossible. Maybe, just maybe it could happen for AC2 if it's succesful enough. I'd say it also depends on other factors, like the success of Dirt 4, since Dirt Rally was mentioned as the reason for AC not to have loose surfaces, and also how successful it becomes on pCars 2 and iRacing. If it becomes a 'must-have' in simulators, I think they'd have to implement it on AC as well, but I don't think it will be so popular.
But honestly I don't expect any large new features for AC1. Hopefully we get driver changes, but it's hard to think we'll get anything bigger than that. My biggest hope is that we get the big features that AC1 lacks all for AC2.

 

Sounds logical but hope never die. It can start with one rallycross track but that mean they need to do "whole physic/tyre... model" anyway. Low benefit for too many work?
Remember the rallycross (by "Rallylegends Mod") was popular at release time and nice MP fun experience.

 

We have experimental driver swaps already.
- Added car Steam ID sharing in entry list: each car in the entry list can feature multiple GUIDs. Players can share that car (one at once). The name inserted in the entry list is used as driver name.

 

I know, that's why I said i expect driver changes.

 

I see, there are almost no interest around loose surfaces, so that speaks for itself.

 

I don't think Kunos would want to do something with loose-surface physics half-way; designing the game engine from the ground up for that would be much better in the long run but, that market is probably too small to justify the investment. Even SMS stated that during Pc1 development; Pc2 would need a redesign to work properly but, we don't yet know what the outcome will be. I'm not saying the developers are the same, just that the investment needed is very substantial in either case and the market limited. Pc2 may do very well but, their player base is largely accustomed to features and game-play of the Gran Tourismo series so it's not much of a stretch.

 

I seem to remember Stefano saying that loose surface physics was on the to do list but the success of Dirt Rally convinced them to shelve it.

I do think loose surface physics would get more use than night or rain. Just sliding the road cars around on gravel would be fun. You could easilly have had an optional gravel section on the fantasy tracks. Adding rally cars without gravel does seem a bit odd... yes I know there are plenty of tarmac rally stages...