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Health question... how are your wrists? - Kunos MD

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by isma_c_r, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. isma_c_r

    isma_c_r Gamer

    Hi guys!

    Somedays, after playing hard ACC, after a couple of days my wrist start to hurt, like if I had a twist. It hurts doing very specific movents that are difficult to reproduce, you are just doing things and it hurts. Particularly sometimes you use the thumb to grab things, or doing some movements white typing.

    Has this happened to you? Do I really have to exercising my wrists to get in in good shape before driving? I don't want to end up with some kind of long term injury or tendonitis...
     

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  3. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    Is your your wheel is too low. Your hands should be at about shoulder height for the most natural fit. Too low and you really stress your wrists.
     
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  4. anthonylroy

    anthonylroy Simracer

    Get rid of your girlfriend, this will help with your wrist strength
     
  5. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    How's your overall sitting position?
    How strong is FFB if you have?
     

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  6. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    Mostly A wrist gets strong.... Screenshot_20190720_233423.jpg
     
    Dewald Nel, chksix, jaxx_za and 2 others like this.
  7. Grip the wheel lightly, don't try to choke it.... Try relax your hands as much as possible.

    This advice is more fit on a music forum, but it applies here as well!
     
    Fremen_78, chksix and Ludovick daoust like this.
  8. F1Aussie

    F1Aussie Racer

    Until my new P1-X rig arrives I am using my old one with my dd1 and due to lack of adjustment it is angled downloads so my hands are very low. My wrists don't hurt at all but my shoulders do ache.
     
  9. dangerranger

    dangerranger Rookie

    I drive a car all day at work, when I'm not driving I'm typing on a poor keyboard. On my days off I often drive for a couple hours at a time. I had surgery on both wrists while young.

    My fingers and wrists ache after long drives. Driving sims don't bother me much, but I keep the stints to about 30 mins typically.
     
  10. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    I got little aches left knee after longer sessions -. -
    assume not gettin younger...
     
  11. chksix

    chksix Simracer

    Me too# I think it's caused by the Playseat with the center pillar blocking the natural angle to the brake pedal on the G29 pedal plate. Left knee is also not used to push hard on the pedal so I have to practice more with LFB. And doing squats to warm up before driving.
     
  12. Lord Kunos

    Lord Kunos His master's voice. Staff Member KS Dev Team

    sadly yes it happened to me and has been going on for some years.

    I found in my case is due to driving with my wrists "collapsed" into the wheel... I do that both when simracing and real driving, it got a bit better by trying not to do that and also by wearing those carpal tunnel restraints at night. In my case it's really all about avoiding big angles in my wrists.

    Sometimes I ended a driving session with my wrists literally on fire.
    As soon I go for a long drive and I forget to keep my wrists straight it comes back, not nice.

    Considering the job I have you can imagine how "inconvenient" this is :(
     
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  13. [ATF]Shanti

    [ATF]Shanti Racer

    yes that pillar is really annoying, however aches don't disappear completely without it, to load hinges in that way causes Probs... Warm up a little before us a good way to do
     
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  14. plaid

    plaid Alien

    I just had some pain for a while, nothing serious, in my case the Gyrotwiser/Powerball helped, besides its kinda fun to use it.*
    Working out always helps, especially specific exercises.
    But with the wrong training you can make it worse.
    Like always its best to go see a doc rather sooner than later.

    *the dude not saying a word, the postsers in the background and the alarm sound makes this video more entertaining imo:
     
  15. isma_c_r

    isma_c_r Gamer

    nope, the position is quite natural, is not because of that
    but i love her, bud!!
    similar to what i would have in a real racing car, and the FFB is not strong, though in ACC is generally stronger than in AC, at least in my case. But not very tough at all
    It's a pain in the ***, I work with a computer all day and really pisses me off, but also in normal activities. I guess that working all day in a computer, riding the bike every day and playing ACC do not help. I've also thought that maybe the diameter of the g27 is too small and the position of the wrists is not natural, i should try a bigger wheel
     
  16. RReed43

    RReed43 Hardcore Simmer

    My wrists hurt if I race for long time. I have turned down the force feedback to 70 on my Fanatec CSW v2.5. That helps.
     
  17. trasgu

    trasgu Simracer

    I never ever have pain in my wrists, IRL I drove 85000km / year for the last 2 years and never felt any pain in my wrists, in simulators when I was a teenager I had a lot of sessions of >4h/day and I never had any problem. But my neck is a different matter, it happens only in simracing because of a bad position of the steering wheel.
     
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  18. chksix

    chksix Simracer

    Yeah, neck and face pains due to VR makes me have to stop and pause after about an hour. The Vive HMD is heavy and needs to be tightened hard to stop it from slipping down.
     
  19. Salvatore Amato

    Salvatore Amato Simracer

    I cannot believe there are not exercises or good habits to get used to. if you speak with a physiotherapist, I'm sure you will solve the problem. that twister looks cool =D
     
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  20. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    I second that. Exercise is key if you spend a lotof time (hobby, work, travel) in a position that the human wasn't really cut out for. I'm almost exclusively desk-working and trying hard to not lose my health by doing sports.

    For what OP says I'd just suggest to simply move your body. Move your arms in ways you don't usually do, move your wrists, shoulders, pelvis, legs...all of it. Don't forget the back, as pain pretty much anywhere in the body can come from the back. The "cat's arched back to the pot-bellied pig" is a good exercise, as Lord Kunos will surely agree.
     
  21. Hagen

    Hagen Hardcore Simmer

    Maybe adjusting the angle of the wheelrim
    could help your wrists. The top of the wheel should be slightly further away from you as the bottom of the rim. If you can adjust this angle try to play around with it.
    I did it wrong on on my custom rig, that's how i learned about that. The distance to the wheel is also important. With your shoulders rested on the seat you should have your wrist resting on the top of the rim, when your arm is fully extended (as a guideline). Height is most comfortable somewhere around neck/chin height.
    I hope you are able to find a more ergonomic position!
     
    isma_c_r likes this.

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