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I love the 5 point tire model, and haven't tried it yet!

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Tim Wilson, Jul 20, 2019.

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  1. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    I haven't stopped thinking about the 5 point tires sense hearing about them. Great, must watch, Blog and video! https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...oducing-the-5-point-tyre-model-for-acc.59307/
    I'm salivating over the thought of feeling the tire width through the wheel, and the prospect of finding new track to race on. Every track has at least one turn, if not many, that will surely benefit from 5 point tires. Not just by fixing the physics, but by enhancing the individual nuances of every curb in the game.

    Yes- Five point tires are here to completely fix the curb behavior issues, as they will, but the real potential is obviously way more than just that.
     
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  3. bgil66

    bgil66 Alien

    Yes I may just turn into an Alien after this :p
     
  4. The power of the placebo will be strong.
     
  5. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    Is confidence by placebo not still confidence?
     
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  6. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Look on the plus side,... just think how many drivers here, owe Kunos for "mussel memory" training, and there wasn't even any added costs.

    So quit complaining, it was a freebee.
     
  7. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    I feel you. ACC already made me so much better. Sometimes I shock myself in this sim.

    I think 5pt is gonna be a race to see who finds the new lines first, and everyone who don't will be in the dust.
    I'd like to see the track limits loosened up to go with this. To match the rl judging. Where if everyone is over the line it's ok in some turns. For me the wider you take these cars the more fun they are to drive.
     
  8. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    I guess I should have put a :) in that post, but thought it was obvious.

    So you don't have to,... "I feel me",...

    And as far as "over the line", we can do that already.
     
  9. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    Or be less cryptic or more to the point. An emote can't save every comment.

    What turn can you get all 4 off every time w/o a cut warning and penalty?
     
  10. Tim Wilson

    Tim Wilson Racer

    David Perel explained track limit rules right here. This is the way I would like to have it. More flexible- less draconian.
     
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  11. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Holly s*** dude, it was obviously humor,... get it,... no need to,... "be less cryptic or more to the point".

    Lighten up, you will live longer.

    And your post did NOT state all four over, just simply,... "over the line".
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2019
  12. Atle Dreier

    Atle Dreier Alien

    In before all the "ffb is so dull now" haters.

    Just think about it. All the high frequency noise they usually obsess over will be filtered out in the new model. There will be riots.

    Sent fra min VOG-L29 via Tapatalk
     
  13. can you explain? I'm completely new to this

    edit: ok ignore this
     
  14. It may help the FFB. We could find that it provides 5x the road effects through the wheel (each at a lighter intensity). There are quite a few sweeping bends at the moment ie at Silverstone where I get kind of medium-strong intermittent 'taps' on the ffb when driving through certain corners. This could be the result of the single point tyre model clipping across surface divots on the track (talking about driving on the black stuff here, not curbs). The 5 point system could smooth this out and provide finer detail of the track surface.
     
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  15. Tiger Feet

    Tiger Feet Gamer

    I'm mostly looking forward to the

    "Bring back the 1 point tyre model" thread 5 minutes after release :rolleyes:



    :D :p
     
  16. redadeg

    redadeg Racer

    When goes it in Beta?
     
  17. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Well yes for sure one of the "disadvantages" maybe for some, is that the FFB over kerbs is more informative, but far more subtle. Since the forces are spread of the full width of the footprint, you obviously don't get that FFB "hit" when going over certain kerbs, neither so wild vibrations on stepped kerbs.
    On the other hand I do believe there are some more subtle sensations while driving, but you guys will be the judges.
     
  18. I wonder if they'll even offer a beta of this. If they run a public beta there will be drivers on the single point and drivers on the 5 point on track at the same time as only us enthusiasts sign up for or are even aware of the public betas. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't run a public beta.
     
  19. Would dialling up the road effects slider bring the curb effects 'volume' up a bit?
     
  20. Aristotelis

    Aristotelis Will it drift? Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Probably yes, I haven't tried it, as I believe that adding road effects, covers up the other subtle movements of the FFB... but I guess a 10-20% should be nice
     
  21. m_box97

    m_box97 Racer

    My G29 and his gear driven FFB is happy to hear that but on the other side of the coin I fear that those small details will be very difficult to feel with low end wheels.
     
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