Lamborghini Huracan Super Trofeo vs GT3

So, we've had both cars for a fair amount of time now. I would imagine those who like to drive such cars have put a few miles on the odometers of each and I'd love to hear thoughts and opinions comparing the two cars. Personally, I've probably spent 90% of my Assetto Corsa time in the street cars. I still consider myself quite a newbie trying to remove a lot of bad habits I picked up playing Gran Turismo 6, my only other experience with a computerized racing game. Still, I am a BIG fan of Lamborghini and I love the fact that we have both cars in AC. I intend to start spending more time in GT series race cars as I'm starting to get a little bit more confident and consistent behind the wheel.

So...Back to the Lamborghinis! What have you noticed is different between the two cars? I believe the Super Trofeo is approximately 40kg heavier than the GT3, but it also produces 60+hp. There must be some differences in aerodynamics, so I would expect cornering speeds to be different between the two cars.

When I drive the two cars, lap times are close...but again, I'm not a very good driver with race cars. I do not push them the way I see them get pushed by very skilled Assetto Corsa drivers (via YouTube videos)...So, what's the early verdict on these two cars, comparatively speaking?

 

Well I find the Super Trofeo is very prone to lift off oversteer coming into a corner or mid-corner whereas the GT3 is much more stable and the Super Trofeo. Basically the GT3 just feels a bit slower in a straight line and a bit faster and more stable through the corners. I am always more consistent with the GT3 but lap times can vary depending on the emphasis on straights or corners and the types of corners.

 

Currently there's a Kunos ST-only server at Mugello. It was the first track I've tried the ST on, and found that mid-corner lift off oversteer when doing trajectory corrections in the Arrabbiatas (T8/9) very unexpected when compared to the more planted GT3 variant.

Btw, does the ST use exact same GT3 tires?

 

We raced the ST at Poznan on ALOOG 1 some time ago. After the first race everyone switched to medium tyres since the softs were brutal in terms of lift-off oversteer (bugged, broken???).

On mediums it's fine, really. I suggest subtle changes to deccel diff (a bit more), rear damper rebound (a bit softer) and front damper bump (a bit harder). It works fine then.

 

I'll give your suggestions a try @LeDude83... I am terrified by the lift-off oversteer of the Super Trofeo. When I created this thread I was running laps at Spa-Francorchamps with both of the cars. The GT3 gives you a confidence to keep pushing whereas the Super Trofeo teases you with that power, but demands a lot more attention if you decide to push hard. They're both great fun to drive.

 

If you put on the mediums you'll be fine. The ST is a straight-line performer, not a cornering hero. Still, it needs the turning to be done on entry - exactly where it's dangerous.

As you drive along you might want to do a test run on the soft rear tyres: some GT3 suffer from the phenomenon of the rear core temp increasing all the time even on the straights when cruising. Maybe the ST softs have the same issue.

 

I quite like the ST, it feels a lot more engaging to me than the gt3 cars.

 

I also think the Super Trofeo feels more lively than the GT3. Again, I'm not able to really push these cars right to the limit - especially for multiple laps...over and over. Yet, I can easily tell the difference between the two cars in stock setup. That's another area that I need to develop - my tuning ability. I'm sure the cars would feel even better if I could set them up to respond better to my driving style.

 

I guess you nailed it with the softs, because my scares at Mugello's T8/9 happened when trying to setup/hotlap alone on softs. When I tried the ST later in a Brands server, it didn't seem so problematic with lift-off oversteer, but most of the time I was on mediums (and the softs qualify setup had way more rear aero vs. Mugello).

Also, I don't remember a temp "bug" on the ST. At that time in Brands I spent some time balancing hot pressures for my setup along with @simbicort (who previously reported that issue), and we didn't notice such problem.

 

Aha! That's why it felt so terrible the other night when I was giving it a go! I wasn't sure if it was a bug or what. I didn't try the mediums, just softs. Off throttle oversteer was very bad.