List with all road cars and their respective electronic aids?

My question as above.

Currently i am testing all the road cars in Trento-Bodone, and i want to drive the cars as realistic+fast as possible.
I don't use TC at all, because it's badly implemented, "comfort-mode" like, and makes virtually every road car slower. But i want to use the stability assist as it is used IRL. What i don't like is that there is no "factory" mode for ESC, in contrary to Project Cars, where i think it's perfectly implemented - uniquely for every car, some cars you can go sideways like hell even with ESC on (comparable to "sport+ mode" in the M4 for example), some others like the Audi A1 are pretty conservative.
Well, i understand there is no car-specified ESC in Assetto Corsa. So i want to recreate the ESC as close as possible comparable to real life "sport+" modes in cars.

Small sidenote: I am really really underwhelmed from the M4 in AC. In 4 attempts i couldn't even match the time from the old M3 in Trento. Using TC makes this an old-grandma car and very slow, not using TC and it's undrivable in first and second gear. I drove this car IRL with sport+, and it's NOTHING like either of those 2 examples. In fact it's perfectly controlable for an amateur like me, but you can still go sideways and get the wheels spinning. Hopefully i can recreate that when tinkering with the stability control in game.

So all i am basically asking is a list with the cars, and their respective aids...and maybe some hints, how much % i should use for stability assist to get a "sport-mode" like behaviour...

Thanks in advance

 

Stability Control in AC is NOT the same as ESC in a real car. The most realistic setting is OFF.

 

that's a shame, because it basically means that every modern car apart from trackday stuff like the 2Eleven isn't properly simulated. Just made a BMW 1M comparison, had a blast in Project Cars with ESC and ABS on, TC off. In AC well...not so much. I really like the old cars, like the Alfa Romeo GTA or the Miura in Assetto Corsa, but the new ones are miles away from their real life counterparts...there are cars out there, where it really doesn't make any sense to drive them without electronic assists (P1, Huayra...)

 

Do anybody Race in RL with Stability Control Systems??

 

well if they're simulating it in pCars then it won't be by using the actual manufacturers data/algorithms so it's not properly simulated there either

 

Racing? I am not sure.
But all new road cars are definitely faster with electronic aids, and in most super/hyper/mega cars you can't even deactivate ESC. In those cars multiple electronic systems are well integrated into the design, you couldn't even drive a lot off them without.

surely not, but they come close to what it should be, and that's all a simulator is about. Better to have a "fake algorithm" to match the real thing 99%, then having no algorithm at all and matching the real thing 0%

 

Then to satisfy the need of one, you can start experimenting with the stability control in game. Start with 30% or higher if you find it acceptable, then see if it needs lower, until you set to something you feel is somewhat realistic for the modern cars.
But if you're having difficulty sliding/drifting with stability, then disable traction control, as that works against drifting, but keep stability as that will help with sliding and recovering until you learn the proper techniques to do it without assists. But no problem if you prefer using stability assist, it comes down to what you enjoy when driving the cars.

 

Only if the driver is crap.

 

Ok thanks, might try that. I don't have any problem driving any car with all assists off. I just don't like the feel. When i am driving an M4 or a 458, i want to feel that i am in a new car. When i want a challenge, i get into the Yellowbird. But there is no point (for me) driving new supercars and disabling every assist. They just feel like cars out of the 70s or 80s again, and that's not the point. In Pcars, there is a world of a difference between vintage cars, and a newer car, you immediately sense the modern engineering. I miss that in AC...but thanks for your tip.

yeah sure, and because of that GT3 drivers are using traction control. Or F1 in early 90s...i guess Williams was barely faster then the other cars, were they? And like already said..there are plenty of cars out there you can't even drive without electronic aids...

 

I was relativly sure that you can always disable the ESC systems on premium cars. I know you can on gallardo and mclaren P1.

 

in the Mclaren, the front spoiler, the rear wing, the active suspension and the electric motors for each wheel are always working. In track mode they are all on, ESC as well...they all play together to give you the best cornering speed at any given time..no human beeing can even imagine to come close to what the computer does in the corners

 

well your fake algorithm can be your varying levels of stability in AC's menus, just AC doesn't pretend it's the real thing

 

sorry, but you are wrong about the P1: "ESC – can be switched off completely in Track- and Race mode by holding down the Aero and Manual buttons simultaenously."

 

but it does pretend that it's generic, unmodifiable (and awfully bad) traction control is real..that's even worse

possible, that the manual does say that, but there are still loads of aidings going on that help the driver..call it how you like, but the computer aided wheel control is always on..each wheel gets always exactly the power it "needs"..
Apart from that, i am no expert in the P1, i know about all the stuff that's going on, and the different (4) modes however. Even if you could disable everything computer controlled -which might be possible with some magic combination - no driver on earth will even come close to the time when using all the aids...that's not possible. And that's the whole point

 

I don't understand why they should lie, either traction or stability control is on or it is off. here is a video of the mp4-12c where he shows how to disable it.

 

didn't say that anyone is lying, just that there are still other electronic aids, apart from TC and SC, call them what ever you like. It just doesn't make any sense to deactivate things like the active suspension or the active rear wing (unless you want to save fuel)

 

What you're talking about isn't possible - the only realistic setting is 0% stability control in AC.

 

then i missunderstood, i thought we are talking specifically about the Stability control.
the aero and suspension thingies should be simulated in AC if im correct.

 

Sorry, have I just stumbled upon a PRC infiltration of a simulation site?

 

Naw, if anything he is a pcars fanboy, and prc hates them also.