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New Pc Help...

Discussion in 'ACC Hardware Discussions' started by jijio, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. jijio

    jijio Rookie

    Hi Guys,

    I've planned to upgrade my hardware in order to run ACC
    This is my next PC specs:
    CPU: Intel I5-9600kf
    GPU: Gygabity Nvidia RTX 2070
    RAM: G.Skill 16 GB Aegis DDR4-3000 Kit
    HHD: Noua SSD 256GB NVMe M.2

    Is it possible to run ACC on EPIC (3440 x 1440p) ?
    Thanks a lot
     
  2. mike reynolds

    mike reynolds Hardcore Simmer

    Borderline I’d say....I have a similar spec, and can run 4K at 60FPS in most scenarios with up to 28 cars on track....but that’s at medium/high settings.

    I’m no CPU expert but ACC doesn’t seem to like i5’s though
     
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  3. jijio

    jijio Rookie

    Thanks, Mike... so maybe it's better to change the i5-9600KF for a i7-9700KF... with the same RTX2070
     
  4. Thomas Fun

    Thomas Fun Racer

    This is also 6 core vs 8 core CPU, so quite a performance boost.
     
  5. McGraw

    McGraw Racer

    You realise that new Nvidia cards and AMD cpu are inbound?

    Very bad time to buy a 2070 (or any other GPU)
     
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  6. Whitestar

    Whitestar Hardcore Simmer

    Indeed, I would NOT buy a 2070 card at this point in time. Can you wait until the new cards are announced at least?

     
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  7. jijio

    jijio Rookie

    With my current PC, I'm able to play with all the settings at low and 8/10 AI Cars, so maybe I will wait until the 3000 Series will be available.
    Thanks, guys for your help ;)
     
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  8. Whitestar

    Whitestar Hardcore Simmer

    I'll probably buy whichever is the fastest. Don't really care whether it's Nvidia's 30xx or AMD's RDNA2. :)
     
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  9. Krassmus

    Krassmus Gamer

    9600kf is best value currently. I've went a 10600k but to be honest I should've bought the 9600kf...

    I'd pick faster ram though. 3200 is just a few bucks more and for simracing, single thread performance matters a lot and memory gives a little boost there.
    If you can get 3400 or 3600 mhz memory for not much more, I'd take even that.

    I did some tests and underclocked/overclocked my 3200 mhz memory. Timings didn't do so much, it was the reaw frequency that gave the boost.

    Gpu:
    Definitely wait. Get the 9600kf and put the saved money compared to 9700k or 10600k into maybe a 3080 instead of 3070.

    Here's the link to my cpu tests:
    https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...pu-benchmark-thread.53720/page-9#post-1142430

    And for overview, here's the summary image linked:
    As you can see the graph flattens after 5 cores. Hyperthreading is bad for acc, for whatever reason.
    7 or 8 cores are just a waste of money. At least as long as Intel wants 50% more for 8 cores compared to 6 cores...
    Note: the memory graph is only at "6cores, ht on with affinity to only real cores". I merged 2 separate graphs into one..
    Memory steps are 2600 to 3466, left to right, nothing to do with the cores on the x-axis!
    [​IMG]


    Not for simracing for the foreseeable future. Only if you also do some rendering or play assassin's creed, red dead redemption or other AAA titles.
     
  10. Gromran

    Gromran Rookie

    But, have to say, not like people mean because they are well multithread optimized. No, more because they are totally messy with resources.
     
  11. FLO 1337

    FLO 1337 Rookie

    When you decide to upgrade if your budget allows I'd recommend minimum 10600K, I went from a i5 9600kf to a i7 10700K and there is a noticeable difference, did not change my video card as I'm waiting for the 3x series. I did change my ram from 3000mhz to 3600mhz. Frames in AC average went from 204 to 230. ACC is well over 100 fps average and could not get a good picture in VR with decent FPS now I can. In some games FPS may be the same but ones that can utilize the chip you will see the gains, I was very surprised.
     
  12. Krassmus

    Krassmus Gamer

    A few questions:
    - did you overclock your 9600kf?
    - did you overclock your 10700k?.

    The 9600kf runs at a much lower speed at default and from my experience, the performance gain for simracing is very small if you run both at "their maximum", which is about 5 GHz or a bit higher for the 10700k.

    Also ram scales quite nicely with ac and acc so the 3600 mhz ram might be the bigger performance gain than the new cpu.

    Would be interesting to hear back from you!

    Not saying the money was waisted though! Having 2 more real cores and hyperthreading is a massive boost for the future and other games than purely simracing!
     
  13. Stains

    Stains Simracer

    How would be the best way to get my ram to 3600 from XMP of 3200? Should i leave XMP on then adjust it up or default than adjust it ? Any tips would be appreciated :)
     
  14. It depends on the ram chips vendor. Quality and stable oc is huge time consuming task.
    Easiest way is to set it on xmp once, and then type manually the shown xmp timings in bios and then set 3600 and boost the ddr voltage with lets say 0.1-0.2v higher than it's xml value, but no more than 1.45-1.5.
     
  15. FLO 1337

    FLO 1337 Rookie

    @Krassmus

    Both chips were ran at stock, the 10700 boost to 4.8 with a rare 4.9. I did have a 9600K as well and and was overclocked to 5.0ghz but that one got shorted out :D power button issues. I just ran some benchmarks in AC as it's very consistent and was curious about ram settings and it defiantly does help but even with the lower ram@2667 it is higher than my previous system.

    2667mhz
    AC VERSION: 1.16.3 (x64)
    POINTS: 32437
    FPS: AVG=221 MIN=44 MAX=272 VARIANCE=10 CPU=91%

    LOADING TIME: 16s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 16
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:3
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:4 DOF:0 RAYS:0 HEAT:1

    3600mhz
    AC VERSION: 1.16.3 (x64)
    POINTS: 35063
    FPS: AVG=239 MIN=99 MAX=293 VARIANCE=10 CPU=91%

    LOADING TIME: 16s
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (1920x1080)
    OS-Version: 6.2.9200 () 0x300-0x1
    CPU CORES: 16
    FULLSCREEN: ON
    AA:4X AF:16X SHDW:2048 BLUR:0
    WORLD DETAIL: 5 SMOKE:3
    PP: QLT:5 HDR:1 FXAA:1 GLR:4 DOF:0 RAYS:0 HEAT:1

    Another game that showed some interesting results was Division 2- 9600kf@ 1080p FPS AVG@ 77 GPU at 94% and CPU@81% / 10700 was AVG@85 GPU@98% and CPU 27% This I may test again with the ram @2667 as this looks like more of a gpu limitation.
     
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  16. Mathieu Labbé

    Mathieu Labbé Hardcore Simmer

    So the 10700k handled ACC significantly better than the 9600k did? I'm curious as I'm debating getting one or the other for my next upgrade.
     
  17. FLO 1337

    FLO 1337 Rookie

    For me it was enough of an upgrade, everything is just smoother now and in AC VR maintaining 80fps it just stays there. I could play ACC on my monitor before with a few dips but in VR I couldn't get good enough picture quality and frames to play comfortably. That being said if I was on a stricter budget I would have got the i5 10600K as it very close to the i7 based on the benchmarks I've seen. Wish I had the chip still to test lol.
     
  18. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    I’d still wait for the AMD 4000 CPU’s to see what native RAM speed they will support as RAM really does make a difference in all sims.
     

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