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New to sim racing will this PC build be sufficient?

Discussion in 'ACC Hardware Discussions' started by Fishfirefly, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Hello everyone! I recently went and drove a racing simulator at richmotech here in Miami and I want one! First things first I need a pc and I am looking into having one built. I’m going to list the following specs and would love to hear if this will be sufficient? I plan on buy a next level dd wheel stand and using this in my living room on the couch or maybe using it with a desk chair. If I really get into this which I think it’s a no brainer for me because I have just recently gotten into the Karting hobby as well. Here are the specs let me know what you think and thank you!

    CPU - Intel Core i5 9400F 2.9GHz - 4.1GHz Boost 6 Cores / 6 Threads
    Mobo - CyberPowerPC B360-10 mATX LGA 1151
    Memory - Patriot Viper Steel 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3000MHz DDR4
    Storage SSD - Western Digital Green 120GB
    Storage HDD - Western Digital Blue 1TB 7,200RPM
    Video Card - Nvidia Geforce EVGA GTX 1060 6GB FTW+ ACX 3.0
    Case - Rexgear 2 mATX Cube Tower
    Power Supply - EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze
    Operating System - Windows 10 Home FULL OEM
    Fans - (1) 140mm, (1) 140mm Corsair RED, (1) 200mm RED
    EXTRA - 2x RGB LED Strip w/ Remote-Control

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  3. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

  4. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Thank you I appreciate the info. I have a friend of a friend building this for me and this is what he recommended after he did some research, I don’t think he’s built a pc specific to sim racing.
  5. Ecnelis

    Ecnelis Hardcore Simmer

    You should be fine with that spec... generally. What kind of display and resolution are you going to use (single screen, triple, VR)? And what do you mean by "sufficient"? Are those fans for the case only? Where's the CPU's fan/radiator?

    ACC in Early Access was running pretty well even on my old PC with i5-2500, 970 GTX @ 1920x1080px and 8 GB RAM with low/med graphic settings and up to 15-20 AI cars. Now, after 1.1 update, we can place 48 AI cars at Spa-Francorchamps grid - and it devours the CPU power (my i5-9600K is struggling). And now you can place up to 80 cars at the grid in multiplayer!
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2019
  6. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    I’ve been thinking of going vr just because I can save on space and not have to buy a monitor
  7. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    welcome to ACC.. :)

    Are you maxed on your budget?

    Whilst mATX is cute, it really can box you into a corner for future builds or upgrades. ACC is pretty thirsty for CPU & GPU power particulalry if you run with high opponent numbers. I would up those hardware pieces particularly as you plan to run VR. 120 GB SSD wont do much. A game or two and your done.. 120GB SSD is good for OS installs. Many people like myself are selling good quality 1080 ti as they want to upgrade to a 2080 ti. I would look for one of those if you can..
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019
  8. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Earlier today I spoke to Jeff with FEG.I felt very comfortable speaking to him and he’s going to help me get setup on a pc that I can run VR with and also is helping me out with getting me a wheel and pedals in my budget so I can get started asap. The specs I had were put together by a friend of a friend who is a pc gamer but doesn’t sim race. He was willing to help me out but I might go with Jeff from FEG even if I have to pay a bit more but I’m sure his assistance will be well worth it.
  9. romandevision

    romandevision Simracer

    ACC is now more optimized than before, but what you have written is not enough.

    My system:
    Ryzen 2600x
    RTX 2070

    This is not enough - in the rain starts stuttering (high and maximum settings, 1440p, glass low, tree low).
  10. vortex19

    vortex19 Simracer

    Your proposed system would probably run successfully at 1080p but would probably struggle at high settings with anything above that (particularly 4k). I would forget VR with those specs as ACC is very demanding. As Coanda said, I'd avoid mATX as its just not very flexible and cooling is generally more of an issue. Get the biggest case you can fit in your space - much easier to work in and upgrade.
  11. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    There really isn’t such a thing as “sufficient” in sim racing, that kind of applies to all the sims. The general rule is go for the fastest single core performance CPU you can get, 16GB of mid/fast ram and the most powerful GPU your budget allows. Even a 2080Ti won’t max the settings so it’s more a case of less sacrifices the higher spec you go.
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  12. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Ok since my specs won’t be enough for VR can someone recommend a full build? As far as a budget I would love to stay in the $7-800 range but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. If I have to wait a little longer and save some more pennies I have no problem with that.
  13. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Start saving boy.. A GPU is more than that..
  14. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Yes I understand my initial budget isn’t going to work and I’m ok with that I just gotta figure out how to hide what I’m spending to the boss (wife). Here’s the build FEG sent me a quote for. Says I will have no problem using an oculus rift s and it will run at max FPS 80 fps.

    I5 9600KF @4.7-5.2, Liquid Cooled Nvidia GTX 1660 Super OC
    16GB DDR4 Ram
    Z390 Motherboard
    120gb SSD Drive
    1TB Hard Drive
    Liquid Radiator/Dual Chamber Pump Premium Case
    Premium Power Supply
    Windows 10 Pro
  15. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    With Black Friday right around the corner I would wait for that and be prepared to jump on good deals.

    Look for 9600kf, 16GB RAM at 3200Mhz or higher. Ideally NVME SSD as big as you can (these generally get quiet cheap on Black Friday), don’t worry about the HDD, just go big SSD (500GB+)

    Where abouts are you and what currency are you buying in?
  16. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    I am in the US
  17. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Statements regarding FPS are very subjective as ACC settings will play a big part here. Just be careful with these types of quotations. They can be rather broad whereby they don't list the the model of each hardware part. I would want to know exactly what the motherboard is and what is the RAM speed and timings etc.. I would keep the 1 TB mechanical drive for movies/photos and invest in a sizable SSD for gaming. Depending on your games library should determine what you need. I would also question the need for a open loop liquid cooling solution. Do you really need it or is for the "it looks cool" factor.. With open loops you need some knowledge. I mean do you or the builder know anything about galvanic corrosion? Things I would be asking about is what metal is the radiator and fittings made out of? Are you running flexible or rigid tubing? What coolant do you plan to use? What is your warranty and does it cover galvanic corrosion on the water block?

    Personally if it was me I would save a few more dollars (as you said this was an option), consider dropping the liquid cooling and use that money to put some more grunt under the hood. ACC will appreciate it and you have to be mindful of the future.

    good luck
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019
  18. Fishfirefly

    Fishfirefly Rookie

    Now things are getting confusing lol but I appreciate the help. I was kind of worried as well when he didn’t list each model to the parts. I am also worried about the 120gb ssd and if I need the liquid cooling.
  19. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    I updated my statement above.

    I understand that feeling of confusion. If your feeling that way best to take a breath and not rush into it as it can end up costing your more in the long run. Personally I have always just sourced each individual part myself and put my PC together. If you don't know how to you can buy the parts and get someone to put it together.. Unless it is a really good deal a lot of these low-mid pc deals are about getting the cheapest parts & brands combos to make the most profit. As you probably already know pc hardware is a competitive market so there is not a lot of wiggle room. Currently I am looking at rebuilding my pc. This will take months of careful planning so that I can get a good 7 years out of it.
  20. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Just ask him for an itemized list in detail on all parts. If you get a vague or hesitant response just move on.. I would also be worried he using cheap Chinese aluminum radiators. I also be worried about the GPU. Does this GPU already come with a water block or is he putting a aftermarket kit on. If it is a kit you can kiss your manufacturers warranty goodbye.

    Things he does not list is what is the size of the radiator? How many fans will you run in total and what size? What is the pump and reservoir? What case? What size PSU?

    Curious, how much was hes quotation?
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019

    LATE4APEX Alien

    And get documentation for each individual component for warranty offered by the component manufacture, including an invoice that clearly itemizes each component.

    I even asked for the boxes that each component came in when I picked up the PC.
    Coanda likes this.

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