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Nvidia Freestyle Filters comparison screenshot and settings

Discussion in 'ACC Hardware Discussions' started by Max Doubt, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    I've been playing with this over last few days and will probably adjust again when I next have a fresh look at it:confused:.
    Here are some settings I've settled on that improve the graphics a lot on my screen.



    No filters -
    Assetto Corsa Competizione Screenshot 2019.08.28 - 20.15.45.53.png

    Filters on - Assetto Corsa Competizione Screenshot 2019.08.28 - 20.15.31.42.png

    Filter order and settings used -
    Desktop Screenshot 2019.08.28 - 20.23.10.67.png Desktop Screenshot 2019.08.28 - 20.23.32.16.png
    In game Image Customization settings used -
    Desktop Screenshot 2019.08.28 - 20.25.04.94.png
     
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  3. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    Looks to me you've just made the blacks gray, or is there something I'm missing?
     
  4. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    Dunno, the file uploads or viewing device may not show these accurately.
    It takes about 5 minutes to test out if you have geforce experience. Enable experimental features then press alt + F3 in game and add the filters in order.
    Replays are a good way to tweak as they continue in real time.
     
  5. th3o

    th3o Hardcore Simmer

    If the artists/devs do a great job for default mode and there are enough ingame settings to play around with, then i feel like one does not need any filters whatsoever. I really prefer the looks of the game as is. I buy into the artists philosophy and what they want to achieve.
    I always compare with a visit to a 5star restaurant, the chef has a certain vision for the dishes, brings them out and then the guest starts pouring salt and pepper all over it.
     
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  6. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    Nothing wrong with a bit of seasoning to taste, as long as you've tried the chef's dish.
     
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  7. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    the thing is, screenshots always look super sharp but when I play it, it's blurry.
     
  8. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Thanks for sharing. Max what are you pc specs and what was the performance hit with the filter on?
     
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  9. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    6700k(4,6GHz) w 1080ti.

    I've run tests on the same 2.5 mins of a replay from the default external replay view, then my helmet cam view, with these filters on vs off.

    FPS VALUES : Current : Min. : Max. : Avg. :
    FILTERS OFF HELMET CAM: FiltersOffInCar.JPG

    FILTERS ON HELMET CAM: FilterOnInCar.JPG

    FILTERS OFF EXTERNAL: filters off.JPG

    FILTERS ON EXTERNAL: filters on.JPG
     
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  10. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Quite a hit in FPS. But that means that the filters actually do something. I'll make sure to try them. I wonder how they're supposed to help with blur, though - the blur occurs due to the temporal aspect of TAA. The blur in ACC is actually just ghosting. But if the old ghost pixels are very close to the current "true" pixels, it is perceived as blur. Don't really see how any sharpening filter could get rid of that.

    But yeah...I shall try it for myself.

    I think I like the contrast settings you chose. It looks better than the original pic you posted.
     
  11. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    Yeah it looks much clearer and 'real' - the settings available really let you fine tune the detail to achieve the best balance of sharpness vs jaggies for your screen and resolution. You can all but eliminate the blur, but in motion this shows too much aliasing.
    I use a 1080p screen, I think this was limiting to the amount of sharpening, clarity and film grain I could introduce. I'd like to hear from someone on 2K or 4K after testing.
    I would suggest anyone with at least 15% headroom on their frame rates give this a go.
     
  12. vortex19

    vortex19 Simracer

    I don't think it's that simple. I use TAA on a 1440p screen and it's pin sharp. The blurring seems to have something to do with screen resolution (or using triples) rather than using TAA. It would be interesting to see if it also had something to do with screen refresh rate.
     
  13. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    make sure we don't get the trails behind cars and image blur confused.
     
  14. Jacobs

    Jacobs Racer

    TAA is blurry mainly while entire camera is moving (looks like very weak motion blur) and KTAA is much better with that. Though it's much less noticeable on higher than 1080p resolution.
     
  15. th3o

    th3o Hardcore Simmer

    I am using TAA on epic on a 27" 1440 p monitor with 100 sharpness ingame settings (advanced sharpener off) and its perfectly fine. Motion Blur of course off.
    It's not as sharp as original Assetto Corsa with 4x MSAA or PCars 2 with Antialiasing on Ultra, i agree on that. Could ACC be sharper? Definitely.
     
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  16. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Pretty sure it's the same mechanism causing both of these symptoms.
     
  17. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    yeah?
     
  18. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

     
  19. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    Few more shots after fine tuning, trees at hungary in afternoon -

    No filters
    Desktop Screenshot 2019.08.31 - 18.15.03.99.png


    Filters On
    Desktop Screenshot 2019.08.31 - 18.14.53.01.png
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2019
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  20. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Filter looks good for a still shot. Curious max, what don't you like about the ACC advanced filter?
     
  21. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt Racer

    Clarity and depth perception mainly for racing, it feels like cheating on battlefield.
    I can't believe how much better the trackside objects look, I hadn't noticed the roller coaster at nurburgring before :). I did a sunset race at spa going into night and it looked so good I was smiling. It seemed easier to judge in the headlights when dark too.
     

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